Mermaids given £500,000 by National Lottery (Sunday Times)

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There’s a comment by someone using the name George Monbiot. I wonder if it’s someone who’s stolen the name or the real George Monbiot goes over to comment on the Times because he can’t say it at the Guardian?

complained to ceo

The comments are a fascinating insight into what the public really thinks about what Mermaids are doing (they really, really don't like it). Makes you realize why Susie, MimmyMum etc are so determined to prevent anyone who isn't already inside their bubble from speaking at all.

Thanks Lang. FOI request submitted. Never done anything like this before, will be interesting to see what I get back.

ECT electrodes are not placed on the body. Just to clarify.

Anybody can find out how and why a grant was made by using Big Lottery Fund FOI procedures. Information here:

www.biglotteryfund.org.uk/about/customer-service/freedom-of-information

I believe someone earlier on the thread said they have sent off such an FOI, asking to see the grant application and the minutes of the panel at which it was approved.

Others might like to send their own requests for the information they themselves are particularly interested in.

Hadley Freeman tweeted about this and in the replies someone asked The National Lottery about how funding decisions are made and this was the response:

The National Lottery
‏****@TNLUK
Hi, you would need to speak to the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport (DCMS) to discuss your concerns around where National Lottery funding is distributed. Decisions on how and where funding is invested are made by 12 specialist organisations chosen by Parliament. ^TJ

Father Jack
‏***@urcrazytoo*
Please give details of who to contact, with email address. This is very concerning and affects your brand significantly.

The National Lottery
‏****@TNLUK
Replying to @urcrazytoo
Hi, decisions on how and where funding is invested are made by the 12 specialist organisations. You'd need to speak to the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport (DCMS) to discuss your concerns around where National Lottery funding is distributed.

^Asia

Father Jack
‏***@urcrazytoo
Replying to @TNLUK*
That's not very helpful as it's a very large Department, isn't it? As it affects you directly I'd hoped for a better response.

The National Lottery
‏****@TNLUK
I'm sorry you feel that way. That's all the information I can give you as the distribution of money to 'good causes' is not the responsibility of the operator of the National Lottery.

^Asia

Just a heads up in case people don’t realise it. Smeg is DJ Gripper, FM Stomp and numerous other twitter aliases.

I would urge caution before clicking the link they have provided. I only say this because there were suspicions about the links (website) provided by the weirdo that is harassing Carowiththegoodhair. I’m not saying this is the case here but....

If you don’t believe me check out their twitter account (same as name here). There is no love lost (to put it mildly) for GC women or Mumsnet.

Things are escalating. Stay safe.

'Kin 'ell.

Who reads a forum of women, many of whom are mothers, and thinks their concerns about the things listed are because they 'want to damage trans children'?

Questioning is not scaremongering.

Nor is pointing out the scary truth of those who set up the organisation and the long term physical and mental health issues of what they push, querying their ‘ties’ with certain police forces, and asking about research and discredited stats that they bandy about.

Kids company - again this was emperors new clothes. All very well intentioned no doubt but just so wrong in so many ways.

Why is someone comparing their experience more than 40 years ago with now anyway? As if any one is proposing that or as if that's what the alternative to Mermaids approach is anything like that?

Seriously we are far more enlightened with mental health than we were even 15 years ago and what went in the 1970s (before I was even born) would not be acceptable to the vast majority today regardless of their views on the trans issue.

To float that as an argument to support Mermaids isn't just it's out of touch and scaremongering in its own right. It's bonkers and frankly offensive in its own right to even make to comparison.

It's not what anyone here would support or think is anymore right than Mermaids.

Mainly because, well safeguarding ironically.

Playing catch up today, having read that Glinner's thread was taken down.

This spurs even more of us on to challenge the Big Lottery over its ethics is using public money to fund child experimentation.

Telling possibly gay teens and preteens that they’re not a gay boy but a straight girl, or vice versa IS conversion therapy.

Telling children their bodies are wrong is wrong
Giving children puberty blockers for anything other than precocious puberty is wrong
Giving children opposite sex hormone is wrong
Sterilising children is wrong
Mutilating children is wrong.
Promoting practices which work in opposition to safeguarding in schools leaving gender questioning children outside the safeguarding framework is wrong.

Mermaids do all this. And they are wrong

Is it a coincidence that the two people on threads here defending Mermaids and saying we are the ones hurting chuldren, both are transpeople who believe they would have benefited from a earlier transition?
For one you don't know that because that did not happen.
Secondly, other children are not you. GD is very rare, but trans is now also non GD. Why medically transition children who in all probability are non GD?

Children are not allowed to rule their own lives yet, can't make medicial decisions, can't vote, can't get married, can't get tattoos. So it is the parents that make this decision, not the children. Parents pushed by harmful 'charities' like Mermaids who do not offer alternatives to medicalisation.

I have written to Dawn Austwick about this. It's completely unacceptable for lottery funds to go to an organisation that advocates a course of action that will sterilise children

What are people thinking?

Do you realise what Mermaids are actually proposing to do with children Smeg?

Thanks all. Wonder if PL et al will be so active and vocal once the legal cases start rolling in in response to the mutilated and damaged young people.

The deleted comments were mostly seagulls.

The last I saw was comment that Paris Lees had publicised the thread on twitter and was urging followers there to write to the Big Lottery.

(Ive only ever seen one other thread disappear like that)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3284251-Lisa-Muggeridge-Suspended-by-Twitter-and-Quoting-her-breaches-MN-Guidelines

I got the deleted message?

Message from MNHQ: We've taken this thread down overnight as it seems to be causing an awful lot of reports. We've a few things to discuss about it at MNHQ in the morning but we'll let you know as soon as we can what's happening with the thread. Thanks for your patience.

Hopefully MNHQ will realise the Monitors targeted it and will reinstate.

Because it was Glinner, and the Monitors came, got spooked by everyone seeing that Mermaids is being given loads of money, and mass-reported loads of comments on the thread and had it taken down. You know, just another day of attempting silencing [shrug]

Does anyone know why the thread started by grinner about this was deleted?

Not just deleted but disappeared.

Glinner ffs!

Does anyone know why the thread started by grinner about this was deleted?