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Monzo bank - Women in Finance Charter

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/11/2018 13:52

I think the likelihood of the split being 50% cismen and 50% transwomen is extremely unlikely. However, if that were the reality, I would say we had achieved our goal as it is the ‘women in finance charter’ and we would have 50% women on our board

community.monzo.com/t/an-update-on-the-women-in-finance-charter/52234

There seems to be one GC person on there, but they're being drowned out by the wokeness

Fuck sake. I really like this bank too Sad

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 19:25

^Digital bank Monzo’s losses more than quadrupled in its first year with a full licence, highlighting the challenges facing the wave of mobile phone app-based lenders trying to take on established groups.

Overall losses in the 12 months to February jumped to £33.1m from £7.9m as figures for its past financial year show customer deposits were £71.2m — equivalent to less than £150 per account.^ this was in June in the FT. But by August the Gruniard was trumpeting that it was worth $1.5bn.

Interesting. And it has bright link cards (so obviously trying to appeal to the laydeez)

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 19:22

Note:

MONZO do NOT have womens best interests at heart.
They do not recognise the 50% of the worlds population that are born to the cry of "it's a girl" and live (or sometimes don't live) with all that comes with that as a distinct group in themselves.
They say there is no deefinition of women past twaw > anyone is a woman if they say they are one
There is no need for words to describe cunty people the world over
They are... irrelevant? Not worthy of a category of their own?

Awesome job MONZO!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 19:20

Who are these tits? Let’s have a wee dig shall we... I’ll be back (as Mary Schwartzenegger used to say)

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 19:19

This is hilarious

They have a "tone of voice" section

monzo.com/tone-of-voice/

little extract

"And if the way we communicate confuses, frustrates or scares them, we can lose their hard-earned trust in seconds. It’s especially important when we’re dealing with sensitive subjects, difficult topics or technical stuff. Those are the moments of truth when people will decide if we’re really transparent, and if we really have their best interests at heart.

So every word matters. Every word is a chance for us to make a connection with someone, go beyond what they’d expect from a bank and brighten their day. (If that sounds unrealistic, check out some of the customer feedback we get to see the difference we make when we get it right.)

This isn’t a set of rules 📜
Good writing is empathetic. Thinking carefully about the people you’re writing to, and understanding how they feel and what they need from us, shouldn’t feel like a tick-box exercise – it should be something you put thought into every time. So if you’ve got a really good reason to veer off the path we’ve put here, go for it."

Telling women to get fucked seems to be a bit of a fail on the old empathetic tone of voice front doesn't it Grin

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 19:18

It’s tempting to try to open accounts for me, DH and DS and try and mess with them.

Mr MaryBelle Smith
Miss Bernard Smith
Xoxo James-Bernadette X

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 19:16

It’s probably just some tit in charge of the social media account. There seems to be an epidemic of arses spouting crap these days.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 19:16

Oh wow so they are really red hot on this

Transwomen are a subcategory of women like disbaled women black women (!)
Transwomen exerpience distinct oppression like disabled women black women (but women who don't have these characteristics are lucky luck bastard oppressors who are never ever held back or experience any difficulties due to being female)
Transwomen are women so they would consider their equalities remit satisfied if their board were 50% men 50% transwomen

OK well fuck them. Again Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 20/11/2018 19:16

Transwomen are excluded from the category 'woman' by being male. They may have a feminine 'gender identity' but they aren't a 'subcategory of female experience'.

adulthumanandtired · 20/11/2018 19:14

Jesus Christ
What a response, accusing you of wrong think

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NibblyPig · 20/11/2018 19:08

So, I have a Monzo account, although I'm not sure I'll be keeping it.

My post was removed. I'm beyond livid. Angry

Screenshot attached (hopefully)

Monzo reply:

Just messaging to say that I’ve removed some your post in the Women in Finance Charter thread, as it breaks our Code of Conduct. In particular, we feel that your comment about “natal women” (as distinct from trans women) would cause trans wome to feel excluded on the basis of their gender identity. Our position is that trans women are women. Of course trans women face distinct issues related to being trans, but that’s true of many subcategories of female experience (differing across categories like race, class, being able-bodied, and so on). We want everyone to feel welcome on the forum, and we’re glad to have you contributing provided you’re able to respect the Code of Conduct

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 17:55

hahahaha somehow don't think it will work that way!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 17:51

Maybe they just want to cut the salary bill with all those underpaid ‘women’

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 17:49

well no exactly

many men believe that women have equality & there is no systemic discrimination / oppression and basically have a total inabilty to listen to women when we tell about how life is for us / believe us
many see that any issues we have are down to our "choices" which are in turn driven by our feminine minds and souls

therefore if you have TW on the board they can cover off the woman stuff (feminine mind / soul) but while subconsioualy seeing them as male and therefore rational and worthy of being listened to and also the sort of people they are happy to spend time with (because men tend to prefer male company and zero men actually see TW as women)

it''s all quite obvious tbh

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/11/2018 17:48

They do want more women. They just aren't fussed if they are cunty or dickish...

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 17:45

So they don’t want more women but more trans women? Ohhhh. How very, er, —fucking stupid right on— progressive of them.

So they don’t really want more women in the board room.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/11/2018 17:42

I guess that if you believe TWAW then such heresy must be hidden as it is literal violence

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KatVonGulag · 20/11/2018 17:18

Someone from the community has hidden rosies comments... you have to click to get through to them.

I think they are polite and perfectly reasonable. Crazy

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Anlaf · 20/11/2018 16:14

Didn't someone from a political party say the same about parliament, at a womens meeting? That they'd celebrate it as a triumph for women if there were literally no cunty people in parliament

The Fawcett Society event this year

Yep, Sal Brinton of lib dems and others were well on board with this:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3310443-Fawcett-Society-Live-stream-from-5-30pm-Courage-Calls-Ask-her-to-stand

I know of a financial services company that had a number of senior male executives transition late in career - it's not at all unlikely that all self-identifying women on a board might have been born male.

MarshaBradyo · 20/11/2018 14:40

I like that NothingonTelly

Of course men would be fine if this happened everywhere because they’re being represented so yeah all ok

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 14:37

The permanence and unchallengable / unchangable fact of male dominance in these positions globally is shown up as fact.

No-one even thinks to suggest that it could be all cunty people and no dicky. That would be ridiculous, right?

All dicky people = the world has set itself to rights.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 14:35

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/11/2018 14:10

Maybe they should aim for 50% transwomen, and 50% transmen, that would keep everyone happy?

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arranfan · 20/11/2018 14:09

Didn't someone from a political party say the same about parliament, at a womens meeting? That they'd celebrate it as a triumph for women if there were literally no cunty people in parliament

The Fawcett Society event this year.