Another man headed for a woman's prison?

Francis Crook executive director of the Howard League for Penal Reform "said that she was worried that ‘some men with a history of extreme violence and sexual violence against women have found a new way of exercising aggression towards women’.

‘These men are not transitioning because they like women and want to be a woman, but in order to exert a new kind of control and dominance over women, a sort of infiltration."

source:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html

Claude Knights (safeguarding expert retired after 15 years as head of Kidscape)
on sex offenders who transition and are afforded the opportunity to change their name and hide their history as a consequence & recent case of "Christopher Noble, 32, transitioned to Christyl Knight while behind bars for keeping a stash of over 4,000 vile pictures and videos of kids as young as six months old"

“Allowing these individuals to hide a secret past is a dangerous practice.”
“Anyone who’s fuelled the vile trade in indecent images of children and therefore contributed to their sexual abuse should not be allowed to change their name.”

[[www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3006679/paedophile-jailed-transgender-christyl-knight-christopher-nobile/]]

I notice the Hertfordshire Mercury report on this story refers to him as a "transwoman", which is slightly better:

www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/transgender-hertford-woman-jailed-historic-2140911

I hope he is sent to a male prison. But the two other troubling issues are how this is recorded in the crime statistics and, as Deathgrip says, that it could act to stop other victims coming forward. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the point. Why else would a sex offender suddenly decide he was really female?

Well I think the police ought to dead name him. They say they want people to come forward if they've been abused by Carrie no matter how long ago - what if you knew this person by their old name and didn't click? The police could lose out on further evidence against him.

Unless he has changed his surname the Mail has deadnamed him. I assume their lawyers are content. Or they have decided being sued would make an even better story.

So how are other victims supposed to come forward when their identity when committing their crime is concealed? Unacceptable.

I thought victims/survivors were meant to matter in our CJS?

Bench Guidance requires that the court 'respect' the gender identity of the accused.

In the case of T Woolf who was found guilty of assaulting Maria Machlaclan at Speakers Corner, the victim was compelled by the court to respect Woolf's identity as 'transwoman' and use 'she/her'

One hopes that Victim Support is taking urgent and significant steps to protect victims of rape from being compelled to call the abusers 'women' and use she/her etc.

Cooper has previously been held in HMP Littlehey.

Littlehey is a specialist male sex offenders institution, home to 12 transwomen.

There is no equivalent institution in the female estate. Presumably, we will have to build one, if all these inmates go on to get GRCs?

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/littlehey-prison-paedophiles-cambridgeshire-cooper-15108328

www.huntspost.co.uk/news/concern-over-access-to-avon-catalogue-for-transgender-inmates-1-5581733

"Mentioning Parkhurst is clever. Gives the game away without risking being accused of deadnaming."

It in no way mitigates the utter stupidity of calling this male rapist a woman.

the child he raped is now 18 and will be reading how she was raped as a child by a woman. How disturbing is that!!

I thought victims/survivors were meant to matter in our CJS?

I agree with HairyStorm. The argument "transwomen should be placed in women’s prison as some women are also sexual abusers too” is basically saying that we might as well put some men into women's prisons because women also commit crimes.

Mentioning Parkhurst is clever. Gives the game away without risking being accused of deadnaming.

Most people skim read and won't check this.

That this is all that police statements and media reports can sometimes do is truly chilling.

Mentioning Parkhurst is clever. Gives the game away without risking being accused of deadnaming. Awful that this gets labelled a woman's crime though.

Insane! The deceit about his sex, it makes me so angry. This is a man who raped a child with his penis. This isn’t a woman.

Reporting this male's crimes as being committed by a woman also adds weight to the TRA argument discussed in current thread as people's perception is that such crimes are being committed by adult human females.

OP BlardyBlar wrote:

"I was trying to think of an analogy to the argument that transwomen should be placed in women’s prison as “some women are also sexual abusers too.”

That is basically saying “We can’t keep women wholly safe in prison, therefore we are justified in removing steps that are known to keep them safe, such as segregation by sex”. (continues)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3403790--but-some-women

Putting the trans issue completely to one side, would the police not usually list any former names a suspect had been known by? I thought that was normal practice?

So far I can only see the Daily Mail having reported on the sentencing. Other outlets reported on the guilty verdict in September.

Seven and a half years added to the existing sentence. Ministry of Justice to decide which prison.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6310759/amp/Convicted-child-rapist-identifies-woman-jailed-seven-years-abusing-girl.html

This thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3403370-classed-as-female

Link to Herts police Facebook page:
m.facebook.com/hertspolice/photos/a.390253366945/10155632193771946/?type=3

There was a thread about this yesterday. I'll see if I can find it.

I think the clue to this person being a man (other than the photo) is the inclusion of the fact about them formerly being in HMP Parkhurst, which some posters pointed out is a prison for men. Is it usual for the police to name an offender's previous prison? I wonder if they did it deliberately.

Could someone do a click link please?

I'd never thought of the people who CAN'T SEE THE BLOODY PHOTOS!

Ideally the alt tag for the photo would describe the person in the photo including things like they have an Adam's apple. Wouldn't be noticed by many.

And if a visually impaired person reads that page (with screen reader technology), they are going to have no clue this offender is a male, are they. All the news outlets are saying ‘transgender woman’ and ‘formerly known as’.

This is such an important point which has not been made often enough.

Will it go on the stats as a female crime? This is possibly the thing that worries me most of all - that male violence will literally be wiped from the record.

Yes, it will. One imagines a point in the future, under self-ID, where the majority of rapes will be committed by “women”.

I read the comments. Bless the one trying to defend the perpetrator.

Will it go on the stats as a female crime? This is possibly the thing that worries me most of all - that male violence will literally be wiped from the record.

@DryHeave (nice!), Cooper is currently serving a sentence at Parkhurst. I can’t imagine he’ll be moved to a women’s prison.