Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Who has lost your business as a result of transgender debate?

112 replies

WomanDictionaryDefined · 17/10/2018 12:02

I cancelled my Vogue subscription when they presented a man as a woman for the 100 years of suffrage edition.

I am debating cancelling tv license.

I no longer use Asos or Topshop or M&S or Ocado or Tesco.

I no longer watch CH4 or BBC news or buy the Guardian.

OP posts:
Needmoresleep · 18/10/2018 18:13

Virgin Money. They signed up to Stonewall's Metro ad which gave links to the Stonewall guidance to the GRA consultation. And have now given me a patronising and inaccurate stock response. I will write back and perhaps start a thread on them. Its not even my account. They hold my vulnerable 89 year old mother's life savings. Yet seem happy to throw her under a bus for the trans cause.

oooompa · 18/10/2018 18:01

https://secure.lloydsbank.com/retail/contact_us/how-we-can-help.asp

I hope that works bonfires 

It says that they call you about the complaint but I said I preferred them to email so I could get their response in writing! I can't believe the didn't reply to your tweet  I would have been furious with that as well, I handle all our banking, just because my partner has a penis it doesn't make him more financially savvy!

Mumminmum · 18/10/2018 17:36

I put them under the toilet seats in the women's toilets in Tesco.

Mumminmum · 18/10/2018 17:35

I didn't know that about Tesco. Now I am even more pleased with myself for putting those "Women don't have willies" stickers under the toilet seats (Under because besides the cleaners only people with willies lift the toilet seat).

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 18/10/2018 17:23

Labour - cancelled membership in May, the Green Party - member before leaving them for Labour, won't be going back until they sort their shit out, WEP hoped they'd be an alternative, bitterly disappointed that a women's equality party didn't prioritise the sex based rights of women and girls over the hurty feelings of boys and men.
Amnesty - already cancelled direct debit after they came out in favour of the exploitation of women and children in prostitution
Children in need, Oxfam, Fawcett society, Stonewall - backstabbing lesbophobic bastards.
Ocado, Top shop, M&S, Lush. Waiting to see if Tesco#s inclusion in the add means they are fully behind self ID and the eradication of female only spaces before dropping them.
The Guardian - no more cash support from me once their misogyny and silencing of women became obvious
The Canary - supporter since the start, cancelled after recent anti-woman coverage.
Diva - the lesbian magazine that attacks and silences real lesbians and fawns over males who identify as lesbian women.
Wikipedia - always donated when the begging page came up, not anymore.
On the plus side I have found woman centric charities to support, discovered the decadent delights of Birds Eye potato waffles in my sixth decade, and Zoflora under the influence of the viper's nest.

BonfiresOfInsanity · 18/10/2018 16:31

oooompa, where did you complain to, I only see to be able to find phone numbers? I did tweet them but it's been ignored of course.

I'm a bit of a lazy sod when it comes to banks, I've been with Lloyds since I was 16 and I'm decades beyond that now. Over the years I have been angered by their desire to put me second to my husband when he joined on MY mortgage, named second when we opened a joint account (his main bank is Natwest so he only did this one for me) and more recently when I discovered that he had become the SOLE contact for receiving information on our joint account without so much as a by your leave from them. I only found out the last one because he never opens the Lloyds letters so I did and found out it was asking him about important decisions and I never received a letter on it. They felt my fury that day.

This has now just given me the extra shove I need.

thurmanmerman · 18/10/2018 16:30

The Labour party
The Guardian

oooompa · 18/10/2018 16:23

Bonfires I've put in a complaint with Lloyds and depending on their answer and further actions I'll also take my business elsewhere.

And I'd never considered leaving Lloyds before because I liked them so much!

BonfiresOfInsanity · 18/10/2018 16:20

Lloyds bank today after saying how proud they were to sponsor the Pink news awards. I have a personal account, joint account, three savings accounts and a business account with them which will all end before the end of the month. I also have a Halifax savings account and one for each of my children which will also be moving as I believe Lloyds own Halifax.

Have been thinking about moving previously when faced with other misogynistic behaviour from them once my DH came on the scene so this is the kick up the arse I needed.

OhHolyJesus · 18/10/2018 15:02

All the usual suspects as listed by PPs. Was about to return to LibDems after leaving Green Party but then realised they're a bunch of losers/liars too.

I do wanted to love Lush since I started my single use plastic free mission but read more and realised how expensive they are compared to alternatives.

I'm finding it useful to be have my options limited though as I really want to make good choices and not be connected to those who can't be honest and stand up for women.

Pamspeople · 18/10/2018 14:49

How about we change all the signs in women's toilets in every Tesco to 'unisex' or 'everyone welcome' and explain to women wanting to use them that Tesco have publicly allied themselves with an organisation which campaigns for an end to single sex facilities?

I don't think any of that would be untrue.

WomanDictionaryDefined · 18/10/2018 13:37

Asos and Tesco have backed Stonewall alongside GCHQ (no idea how to boycott spooks!) and many others. I just picked the ones I use regularly off the Metro list of companies to avoid in future. Made it nice and easy that did.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3397047-Full-page-advert-in-Metro#prettyPhoto

OP posts:
GulagsMyArse · 18/10/2018 09:52

poster WomanDictionaryDefined
What did asos do?

Labour
Ocado
M and S
Lush - full of toxic shit anyway masquerading as natural
Amessty

JoanSummers · 18/10/2018 09:32

It's my understanding from my reading on the licence that if I stop watching any TV as it is broadcast, never record anything, and never use Iplayer, I can cancel my tv licence. I can still watch bluray & dvd, play playstation, watch Netflix Amazon Youtube etc, and watch any catch up tv we like (except Iplayer) and still be within the law.

Is this right?

Cos if it is I don't know why I am even paying the licence. I don't want to give the BBC any more of my money and I can manage all of the above easily.

Mrstwiddle · 18/10/2018 08:32

What did M&S do?

IdaBWells · 18/10/2018 06:06

I forgot that I also took out a subscription to Medium the site for writers because so many gender critical excellent essays and writers are on there.

IdaBWells · 18/10/2018 05:27

I never bought The Guardian but now I don’t bother reading it on line
BBC
Lush
Top Shop (I have three teenagers don’t shop for any of them there anymore)
The main political parties

On a positive note I bought a subscription to The Times.
I am making bigger purchases for a new house and doing my homework on the companies that I am buying from and making sure they support women and girls or at least are not coming out actively against us.
I support local charities and make sure I know where the money is going.
I gave money to the women’s organizations that are mentioned on here a lot.
I bought 3 t-shirts from Posie Parker.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 17/10/2018 23:57

Oh yes, P&G (Procter & Gamble) will also be on my list to stop buying if it's confirmed that they knew about the link to the consultation (or if they didn't but won't make that clear). Their biggest market is women and parents (typical Mumsnetters in fact) - Always & Tampax, Pampers, several laundry, household and haircare brands, Olay, Gillette... so you would think they might give a damn about our rights.

IKeepFlouncing · 17/10/2018 22:16

I meant to trawl through stuff but got side tracked, Virgin Media promoting some knob head that i never heard off. Obviously not target market but my kids are of the books my kids won’t be reading that he was promoting at time on behalf of that corrupt mythical sea creature

Honestly unicorns, mermaids and all things wanky unless your under age of 10.

silentcrow · 17/10/2018 21:33

Lush is the only one that I'm affected by, really, and since Body Shop is no longer under the Nestle empire I can happily switch back. I've gone right off Lush in recent years for other political stances anyway, so its no hardship.

I won't be contributing to CiN. I will "forget" to give dd her £1 for school and make a more substantial donation elsewhere.

I am mighty sad about losing Stripes Books, who endorsed the Stonewall version of the GDA response today. Some great authors work with them. Sadly they are pushing a particular author right now and I can't support a company that publishes someone who says things like "being gay is the consolation prize for not being trans".

scepticalwoman · 17/10/2018 21:18

IKeepFlouncing
It's 6550 - bloody amazing as judging by the comments, the majority of the signatures are from Stonewall's core contributers.
Here:

www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

rememberatime · 17/10/2018 21:17

Lush - the very first that came to mind
Ocado
Top Shop
Almost all of the BBC
The Guardian
All mainstream political parties (i have no one to vote for!)
Almost all charities (but mostly for other reasons)

scepticalwoman · 17/10/2018 21:13

The Guardian, Labour Party and Stonewall. And refused to get involved in a Children in Need activity recently.

Schnickers · 17/10/2018 21:10

God, yes Vogue. Awful.

SirVixofVixHall · 17/10/2018 21:08

The Guardian, have stopped buying even the Saturday paper and the Observer, after decades of readership.
TopShop. I have a teenage daughter, so it is a shame, but I’m not shopping there while they care so little for girls.
Lush.
The Labour Party, the Green Party, the Lib Dem’s. I only voted LD once, years ago, as I liked the local candidate, but I wouldn’t consider them an option now.
Amnesty. Annoying I have a prior commitment for helping at an Amnesty fundraiser, but after that no more, and I’ve stopped donating.
Children in need.
Vogue.
.