Dawn Butler, Shadow MP for WOMEN, has doubled down on her hatred.

I propose we offer her an all expenses paid weekend in Blackpool to see the illuminations plus a special MN award for Totally Exceptional Radical Feministing.

All she has to do is attend the meeting.

Do we think she'll go for it?

Dawn Butler recently speaking at a conference arranged by Jane Fae:
(extract)
"Minority groups must stand together in the fight for one another's rights, the shadow secretary of state for women has said.

Dawn Butler used her keynote speech at the UK's first transgender conference, titled #StillHere, to speak of the importance of solidarity in the effort to advance transgender rights.

“I know that after this I’m going to get quite a lot of abuse,” the Labour MP said on Saturday, “but it’s nothing compared to what you get on a daily basis.”

This is what I learnt from talking to an anti-trans campaigner
She said: “You have to know that there is a flood of voices behind you… that’s here to stand up and support and stick up for your rights. Because without your rights I can’t have my rights and I quite like my rights and I’m still struggling to get my full rights."

“We have to fight for each other,” she added.

The conference aimed to provide a space where transgender people and allies could discuss prominent issues and network with one another.

Journalist and campaigner Jane Fae, who had the initial idea for the event, said she also hoped to “provide a boost to community spirits … after a year of unprecedented hostility towards the trans community.” (continues)

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dawn-butler-transgender-uk-labour-intersectionality-rights-a8534761.html

recent thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374614-John-Ozimek-now-Jane-Fae-on-women-feminists-and-victims-of-pornographers

Dawn Butler's speech in House of Commons during special session on homophobia, biphobia and transphobia referred to a social media platform 'calling for a new section 28'.

Whilst this was not named, it is a common mistake /propaganda spread by some TRAs that Mumsnet FWR 'called for a new section 28'. This was based on the blog written by intern Emma Healy who breached data from Mumsnet.

This claim has been heavily promoted by the LibDem LGBT+ Twitter account believed to be controlled in part by Sarah Brown & Zoe O'Connell (also both of Stonewall's trans advisory group)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3263172-Andrew-Gilligan-Latest-bullying-transgender-complaint-swiftly-rejected-by-parliamentary-standards-committee

In it she took a sarcastic post written by a poster who was supportive of trans rights and out of context, suggested this was the view of members here.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3251616-Parliament-debate-on-homophobia-today-tweet-MP-if-you-would-like-lesbian-voices-to-be-represented

I love the idea of offering Dawn Butler £14,000 to attend a meeting with a women's group

I also think we desperately need a legal ruling on what the word woman means. It's so stupid that we can't even understand each other and the law because of this.

Yes. And we need a word that exclusively defines those of us born into female bodies. Without that there is no way of even describing conflicting rights and interests between male-bodied and female-bodied people, let alone enforcing them in law or day to day.

Harrop's My dear friend Joss Prior

recent thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3377721-Joss-Prior-on-Posie-Parker-feminism-Mumsnet-FWR-boards-etc

I would vote for anyone prepared to make this a priority in government and really listen to and think about the very valid concerns raised by women regarding their safety and dignity.

I also think we desperately need a legal ruling on what the word woman means. It's so stupid that we can't even understand each other and the law because of this.

Maybe we should think about running a candidate at the next General Election against whichever MP has betrayed women the most badly whilst furthering their own career.
We wouldn't win but we could certainly be in with a chance of influencing the vote enough to make the sitting MP lose their seat.

Maybe we should crowdfund £14,000 to pay Dawn Butler to go to this event - in her own place of work and on the topic she's supposed to cover. Or does she only go to events in LA?

I might have made mention of her paid trip to Cali and GLAAD needing to be paid for in kind in my email to her.

"Oh come on Ova

I'm sure someone blowing £14,000 on showing Dawn Butler the bright lights of LA and taking her to a prominent trans award ceremony has had no impact whatsoever on any decisions she has made since then

stop being so cynical"

Lol. But seriously, these tactics (as linked to on another thread) are pure and sinister grooming.

This is so fucked. Sorry I'm not more eloquent.

Does she not realise that once she has outlived her usefulness to the Adrians of the world, she’ll be painted as a terf and expected to stfu with all the rest of the vagina bearers or whatever horrendous name will be given to the ones that do the shit work and bear children.

Dawn - if you think Adrian wouldn't ever cut off your finger, I can assure you that he would.

Well, sisters ... come election time we women should descend on Brent constituency and let voters that electorate know about their MPs attitude towards women voters. She is "Shadow Secretary of State
for Women and Equalities" .. but only supporting those women who are men.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly

If you mean the current state of affairs, yes it is the Tories fault. But the GRA was passed under Tony Blair's Labour government. Interesting thread here

As someone said on that thread, who'd have thought Norman Tebbit and Ann Widdecombe would be people who raised the concerns that are coming to fruition now?

I am really pissed off that neither Dawn Butler nor Penny Mordaunt want to fulfil the Women's Minister part of their roles.

Does she not realise that once she has outlived her usefulness to the Adrians of the world, she’ll be painted as a terf and expected to stfu with all the rest of the vagina bearers or whatever horrendous name will be given to the ones that do the shit work and bear children.

I’m sick of Harrop and his controlling, bullying tactics. As for Butler, she’s a disgrace.

I will vote for whoever is willing to quash this 'reform'. I think the Tories are our best shot. They can kick it into the long grass by declaring themselves too busy dealing with Brexit. Hopefully the DUP will also be a stumbling block to implementing any changes. They don't need their votes for this issue but for other issues they (DUP) may be important. I still remember the posters telling me the Government wouldn't touch this. It wouldn't happen. Ha!

That narcissistic little arsehole has peaked me again. I've just emailed my local MP.

"I do think that if the reforms to the GRA are passed the only way forward will be civil disobedience"

"genuinely"

"it's a bit of a worry - I don't especially want a police record!"

Nor do I, especially having a Met Police detective in my close family! But you know what? I'm in my 60s, I've had my life and I'm getting really bloody close to not giving a fuck

I just CANNOT understand Penny Mordaunt and Dawn Butler and all the other women politicians who are SO dismissive of even listening to the opposing viewpoint on this.

They are supposed to represent women - ALL women. They are choosing to ignore any women who disagree with one viewpoint.

If they'd just go to the meetings, engage with the arguments, that would be different. But they're all doing the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending if they repeat something long enough it will become true. Magical thinking.

FFS.

Bad

Adrian Harrop emailed Dawn Butler's office about the meeting in the HoC on 16th October with Dr Nic Williams et al about women's rights concerns over GRA reform.

James May, office manager at Dawn Butler's office replied:

"I can confirm that Dawn is having no imvolvement with that meeting and continues to be a staunch ally of the Trans community."

So there you do. Trans more important than women.

There have been many posts recently from lurkers who are coming out as shocked and distressed at the way women are being so badly let down by so many of our institutions.

Many are starting to write to their MPs and to put the word out. Many people still do not know what is happening and continue to believe 'it will never happen' even though it already has.

These public figures who show their true colours now are riding the wave of current wokeness. They are too shallow to see how they can so easily crash as more and more of the general public get to hear about how our government are trying to change laws that affect everyone in our country, by stealth.

It will be very hard for DB to come back from this when the tide turns. Women won't trust her and the men that are using her now to push their own agenda will have no interest once she stops being of use to them.

Silly woman.

Bad eyes so I can’t see the screen shots. Could somebody summarise for me please. Somebody asked me on FB why I’m so pissed off with Labour this morning so these might be exactly the thing to post to illustrate why, but obvs I can’t if I don’t know what they say.

Thank you in advance.