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Aimee Challenor welcomed into the Lib Dems

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TurfClub · 30/09/2018 08:48

Just for quick context, Aimee Challenor resigned from the Lib Dems under a cloud of shit, after Aimee's father was charged for raping a 10-year-old-girl while dressed in a nappy, and Aimee continued to employ him as an agent.

So there is currently an investigation by Veritas into what happened, this has not been completed, but already welcomed with open arms into the Lib Dems.

Sickening.

twitter.com/LGBTLD/status/1046165538085523457 (Sarah Brown i think)
twitter.com/JamesCoxLD/status/1046170201644027904 (candidate for Bristol West, Lib Dem held till 2015)
twitter.com/caronmlindsay/status/1046181014090010627

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Needmoresleep · 29/07/2019 13:20

@glinner

I am guessing that as a result of your article, Aimee Challenor's name has been taken off the Stonewall's website. My supplementary guess is that she is still a member of the Stonewall Trans advisory committee. In short, nothing has changed, other than Stonewall is even less transparent than it was before.

These are the people who advise the schools our children go to.

Lumene · 29/07/2019 12:23

There is no vetting of individuals joining any of the main parties as a member - you just sign up online so I think this post is a little unfair.

Both prospective leaders were happy to be pictured grinning with Challenor in the run up to the election. They know full well who Challenor is.

ChickenonaMug · 29/07/2019 11:02

Needmoresleep as far as I am aware a charity does not need to respond to a FOI request.

Needmoresleep · 29/07/2019 11:00

Help I'm missing a not.

However this does NOT mean that she is no longer part of the group

ChickenonaMug · 29/07/2019 10:59

2B I think that you are probably correct about AC as AC's LinkedIn account seems to back up the disappearance of the name from Stonewall. I doubt that any confirmation will be forthcoming from Stonewall.

Needmoresleep · 29/07/2019 10:58

To clarify, Stonewall no longer list AC as a member of their trans advisory group. However this does mean that she is no longer part of the group

"MEMBERS OF THE GROUP WERE APPOINTED FOLLOWING AN EXTENSIVE APPLICATION AND RECRUITMENT PROCESS. PLEASE NOTE, SOME MEMBERS OF THE GROUP HAVE ELECTED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS, SO HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED ON THIS LIST."

In short, we have no idea who belongs to this group. Aimee's name may simply have been taken off the Stonewall website.

I wish all those organisations, including schools, parting with good money to receive advice would demand to know who is the source of that advice.

Can you do FOI requests on organisations like Stonewall?

2BthatUnnoticed · 29/07/2019 10:47

Apologies - can’t find any official confirmation so asked HQ to delete until/if there is Blush

(to be clear, wasn’t anything to do with LibDems)

youllhavehadyourtea · 29/07/2019 10:26

Challenor has been Lib Dem DIversity Officer ( Coventry) since January according to Linkedin

wheresmymojo · 29/07/2019 10:26

ACs application to join may be under review, but they are already writing for them

They're not writing for the Lib Dem's - that is a site for Lib Dem supporters to post opinions on. It doesn't in anyway mean AC is representing the Party.

wheresmymojo · 29/07/2019 10:23

TBF Aimee has joined as a member, not in any specific role.

There is no vetting of individuals joining any of the main parties as a member - you just sign up online so I think this post is a little unfair.

youllhavehadyourtea · 29/07/2019 10:13

We don't know if they have been removed from the advisory board.

Challenor's name is no longer there, but members can be anonymous.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 29/07/2019 10:11

What makes you say that 2B ?

Really good news if true

FormerMediocreMale · 29/07/2019 10:04

Thanks for tje updaye, do you have any further details?

Good news if they have been removed.

2BthatUnnoticed · 29/07/2019 09:54

(Someone may make a new thread - I just thought I’d keep it in one place, but the thread title might confuse people) 😊

2BthatUnnoticed · 29/07/2019 09:52

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

RedToothBrush · 07/10/2018 17:50

Does the LD coms team have oversight of their social media presence?!

a) no they have no oversight because of the party structure.
b) LD President Sal Brinton supports the lgbt lds twitter account retweeting frequently anyway.

FekkoTheLawyer · 07/10/2018 11:20

They must be scared of their super powers. Maybe they self ID as a grand wizard or something.

Rumbledore · 07/10/2018 11:17

I despair. Does the LD comes team have oversight of their social media presence?!

TwistedStitch · 07/10/2018 11:08

I find it completely bizarre that this individual is able to wield so much influence. They are poorly educated, uncharismatic, with an extremely questionable background. They have brought a shit load of grief to the Greens. The magic 'T' word at work again.

FekkoTheLawyer · 07/10/2018 11:06

Loads of vaseline like an aging black and white star back in the day, or an app?

BreakWindandFire · 07/10/2018 10:59

Ruddy hell, they're using the same photo filter as Stephanie Hayden!

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 09:45

Spectator lead article by James Kirkup concludes:

"All raise serious issues of public policy, yet politicians are silent, fearful of questioning the trans-rights advocates and the consequences of their orthodoxy. Sometimes with good reason, too. Those MPs, mostly women, who have tried to debate this issue have been showered with online hatred. I’ve stopped counting the politicians, cabinet ministers among them, who tell me privately they worry about the trans agenda but won’t say so publicly

That silence troubles me. I am no social conservative, no culture warrior defending ‘traditional’ values. My interest here is fear of political failure, of what happens when sensible politicians fail to do their job by weighing evidence and reconciling conflicting interests. The failure leaves the trans debate dominated by shrill and aggressive groups intent on eliminating inconvenient evidence and dissenting views.

Failing to debate trans issues on the facts also creates the conditions for deliberate and harmful populism. Rows about trans people in bathrooms are a staple of America’s culture wars. The current vacuum of leadership on the issue means Britain could easily go the same way, if a politician on the make decided to make trouble. That would benefit no one, least of all transgender people, who deserve to live their lives with the same ordinary dignity as anyone else.

That’s not all that’s at stake. Trans-genderism is the perfect ideology for the on-demand internet age. It gives unquestioned primacy to ‘lived experience’, elevates emotion above evidence and convicts — after instant trial by social media — any scrutiny or doubt of that most heinous contemporary crime, intolerance. It chills debate and stifles critical thinking.

Should policies and laws be made on the basis of facts and evidence, or feelings and demands? You might not think so today, but the way our political system responds to the transgender rights movement will matter to everyone."

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/trans-rights-have-gone-wrong/

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384307-James-Kirkup-Spectator-lead-article-Trans-rights-have-gone-wrong-The-new-gender-orthodoxy-allows-no-room-for-dissent

arranfan · 04/10/2018 09:37

AC is still on Stonewall committees and umpteen similar LGBTQ+ panels. Possibly still a trustee for a number of similar charities, groups, organisations. Already, I think, in most or jockeying for the OU LGBTQ+ position where AC is/is about to be a student.

And, AC was thanked, personally, on Twitter by an Assistance Chief Constable for AC's address to a regional LGBQT+ Police group. So, I imagine those sorts of liaisons and associations are still in place.

I'm less certina about AC;s positions with youth groups of which AC was a leader/officer.