“Transwomen should be treated on female wards”

"Esp important on MH ward. My mate was a MH in patient support worker and she told me how disruptive men self-IDing as women were on ward. Most women victims of assault and it's very traumatic."

These women are being thrown under cc bus. Their needs are considered last, if at all. How has this happened?

OVA - I am sorry if my post causes offence. I was not referring to your story above and it is unrelated. If you would like me to take this down I will report it.

I hear that too. I watched the Tara Hewitt video a few months ago as someone posted it here. I remain quite horrified by it what I saw. They're not even trying to hide the take over of transgender status by cross dressing men, instead they're using their platform to brainwash women into thinking that doesn't matter in the name of equality.

Yes exactly.

I don't mean to derail, but with relevance to mixed psychiatric wards also, and thinking of Karen White, (formerly known as David Thompson and Stephen Wood, who committed rapes against (obviously vulnerable) women on mixed psychiatric wards.) I have just been pondering and remembered the letter by Professor Coid, emeritus professor of forensic psychology, Queen Mary University of London, in the Times recently where he was talking about "the entirely predictable consequences" of putting male sex offenders in women's prison's.

He said "this practice ignores the psychopathology of disturbed and sometimes dangerous individuals" and that "uncertain sexual identity is a key risk factor in a man with history of sexual assaults".

Hospitals ought to keep in mind that many males have committed sexual offences but not been caught or convicted yet. They don't just become a key risk when we put a name to the perpetrator and convict him.

I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has been mentioned.
I HATED other men being there in the day on the maternity ward. I would never have said anything because those men (including my DH) were there to help their partners and start their new family and I didn't feel 'at risk'. But I still felt uneasy. Boobs out and leaking, recovering from a haemorrhage etc, etc. Sometimes women (and men) just want single sex spaces.
I also know about a local case whereby a woman took her then DP to court after he raped her days after giving birth at hospital.
This issue is not about trans people. It is about violent men. There are far too many threads on here that link to this to not take the risk of mixed sex wards seriously.
So I'm sorry, but if you have a penis, I don't want to sleep next to you on a ward. Thanks.

OVAground
So sorry that happened to you

Ova - I remember reading that comment you made about being assaulted. I'm really sorry to hear that happened to you.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree

Worth looking at your NHS Trust's policies:

-Diversity and Inclusion (based on Equality Act 2010 & should have sex and gender reassignment as 2 of the 9 protected characteristics. Not 'gender/gender identity')

-Same sex accomodation policy
(I think this is a performance indicator & breaches have to be recorded????)

-Transgender policy

I’m a HCP in the NHS and I don’t know of a single person I work with who would think this is a good idea. I work in ED where it is obviously mixed sex and we have problems arise from this. We also have issues getting people out of our department and off to medical and surgical assessment wards etc. because we need to send them to appropriate place for their sex. The wait due to that is often much longer but we value those spaces being segregated.

On a personal note, which I have mentioned before under another user name. I was assaulted on a maternity ward where men where allowed to stay the night. I struggled immensely because of that and battled (I am high risk) to be allowed to have a home birth recently because I simply could not face giving birth in a hospital where I would be housed with men. I now have ongoing mental health issues as a direct result of what happened.

I think stage 1 of TWAW is thinking that all TW are post-op transexuals, not yet realising that transitioning these days means simply declaring "I feel like a woman" three times in front of a mirror whilst wearing heels and too much lippy. And some of those doing this do it because they actually want to be a woman, and some do because they get off on it and they want to force women into joining them in this fetish. Now I wouldn't object too strongly to the former on a mixed ward but I would not want the latter anywhere near me at any point.

Tara Hewitt is a co-founder of TELI with Jess Bradley and Michelle Hudson.
thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374926-What-influence-does-TELI-have-on-government-public-services-and-charities-policies-Co-founders-include-Jess-Bradley-Tara-Hewitt-and-Michelle-Hudson

but how old was Tara when Tara transitioned if Tara has spent 10 years post surgery?
Tara can only have been a young person. What is Tara's background? Tara's qualifications and experience?

2016 Interview with Tara Hewitt: 'What it's like to be Transgender and Catholic
Tara Hewitt, NHS equality and diversity advisor, doesn't believe in abortion or IVF but says it doesn't affect her job'
(extract)
"Tara Hewitt, 30, who works in the Wirral as the boroughs’s equality and diversity advisor said she is pro-life but ‘doesn’t force those views on others.’

She said:“I don’t believe in terminating life... Life starts at conception and then if you terminate life after that then you’re ending a life.

“That’s my view, I can’t have children, I don’t judge people for making their decisions – I have friends who have had abortions.”

After transitioning at the University of Liverpool, at the age of 21, Tara struggled and attempted suicide before turning to the church." (cont)

"Tara, who lives in New Brighton, is also a pansexual, which means she is attracted to any gender.

But, although she supports gay marriage and same-sex adoption, she doesn’t believe in IVF.

“None of my views are based on sexual orientation I support love.

“Millions of people share my view but, because they aren’t trans, they aren’t targetted.

“It’s hard being right wing and trans, I get attacked from both sides.”

Tara was on the Conservative Party candidate list in the last election and came under fire when a Sun report ‘revealed’ her sexual fetishes.

Hewitt reportedly described herself as an “advocate of the BDSM (bondage, discipline and sadomasochism) community”, and into “swinging” and “pet play”, which is dressing up as an animal for sex.

She says the relationship between the individual and the church is private, so her understanding of her faith shouldn’t impact anybody else." (continues)

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/what-its-like-transgender-catholic-10810323

R0wan

Thank you. That's chilling.

Groups like Stonewall, Mermaids, TELI and 'experts' like Tara got into all publuc service providers, Govt, NHS, schools before the public caught up.

I dread to think who they've influenced, the policies they've changed without wider society realising.
The damage they havw and are creating is just unfathomable.

I know you already know this, but I'm only a few months in to this batshit and am agog at how late I am arriving - let alone other 'average' people

Tara had no credible data in Tara's talk. Didn't anyone medical think to ask them?

Tara talks about being insulted when trans people have spent most of their lives 'transitioned' but how old was Tara when Tara transitioned if Tara has spent 10 years post surgery?
Tara can only have been a young person. What is Tara's background? Tara's qualifications and experience?

breastfeedingclownfish presumably an anti Semitic sick fuck. How charming.

Tara Hewitt is giving a key note speech today at the The Adoption and Fostering Alliance (AFA) Scotland Health Group Conference :

"We are pleased to confirm that Tara Hewitt will be joining colleagues from Three Circles Fostering at this conference. They will be addressing issues of gender identity, about which many professionals feel ill-equipped when required to advise and support looked after young people and their carers.

Tara has provided input and support to staff from over 20 different NHS organisations covering Mental Health, CAMHs, Forensic Services, Acute Trusts and Clinical Commissioning Groups in relation to supporting trans service users and staff.

She has previously been invited as a guest lecturer on LGBT+ issues to social work students at Liverpool John Moore's University and Nursing Students at University of Salford.

Outside of her time spent as a Leadership & Inclusion consultant, Tara has worked for over 8 years as an Equality & Diversity Professional within the NHS. Tara specialises in bringing a creative edge to discussions around the complex topic of gender and health inequalities and helping professionals navigate solutions to challenges within an intersectional context, including young people in care."

Tara Hewitt & ThreeCircles created resources for children and young people in the care system & a toolkit for foster carers and social care professionals supporting them:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324578-Vunerabilities-of-Looked-After-Children-Social-Work-CP-restricted-by-affirmation-requirement-Trans-Youth-in-Care-Toolkit

Tara Hewitt has also been a key diversity adviser at Salford University recently

Fuck, no.

There was a bloke saying that surely a clitoris is a "rudimentary penis" in the comments in one of the recent Times articles. Perhaps that's about Tara's level of understanding of the female body.

If you say you are transgender your NHS records will be changed to your preferred gender if you ask. No diagnosis of GD or a GRC needed. That is happening now.

Pom
I've just peak transed all over again with that Tara Hewitt video. I'm aghast.

So this person advises NHS trusts and staff across the country?

Where is the research that 300,000 'trans' people get cancer? If, in Tara's broad umbrella terms, trans includes non-binary and cross dressing males every bloody body how on earth did they pluck that figure out? Especially when Tara says something like (and I paraphrase) that people tend to think trans people have had surgery ad this isn't really the case (before talking about drag kings and fetishists)

"We don't really use the term transsexual"

And at the end Tara said... "some women don't have a vagina. Some men don't have penises."

"Some use 'cock' to talk about their clitoris and some people use the word clitoris to talk about their penis."

Nobody asked any questions. I imagine a few were peak transed in that room.

Please tell me that was a Peter Kay sketch..otherwise the NHS is screwed.

I can assure you than trans people do not pass better when they are elderly neither do they pass better when they are very ill - it takes energy to keep the social exterior.

Seafarer. Don't delete. I hear that too. I watched the Tara Hewitt video a few months ago as someone posted it here. I remain quite horrified by it what I saw. They're not even trying to hide the take over of transgender status by cross dressing men, instead they're using their platform to brainwash women into thinking that doesn't matter in the name of equality.

heresy's post up thread.
Yes.

I'd really like someone to explain why grouping by gender expression in a medical or indeed any other setting is preferable above grouping by sex.

As far as I can see it's meaningless, whereas there are clear reasons for grouping by sex.

Arrrrrrrrrrrgh. I hate all this. It is so fucked up. And cruel to women. TW are not Women.

I haven't watched that video before. All I can hear when Hewitt talks is "fetish.. sexualisation.. fetish.. kink, sex sex SEX. Bring my fetish to work day.. Me me me me.. most special... most cancery.. cult cult cult... you must do this... obey my power to dictate terms to you.. most traumatic.. me me me (MUMMY)"

God forbid a doctor should talk about the biological sex of a patient or that we should not all bow down to your fucking identity.

And then this trans fucking umbrella. Choosing to side with fetishistic cross dressers over women tells me so much.

I probably should have deleted as have nothing constructive to add but am posting anyway.

I have been on a female psychiatric assessment ward with a trans person who identified as female but had not had the surgery and this must have been over a year ago now. So this has been happening for a while now

In that video, Tara Hewitt talks about people going from "one gender binary to another gender binary" which is actually logically impossible.

You can cross a gender binary, though ...

Not the brightest pea in the pod but paid to educate others, hmmmm ...