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The Times - smear campaign by trans lecturer at Goldsmiths

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tiredandweary · 08/09/2018 00:45

The Times reporting on the smear campaign against academics run by 'Natacha Kennedy' of Goldsmiths. Given how movingly women academics have written here about the fear and intimidation they experience working in universities, how good to see the source of the bullying exposed. share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222?shareToken=c2e850050d0c9913ecbcbbb9b0e9ccfb

And a brilliant article by Janice Turner about dangerous trans rapists in women's jails:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-rapists-are-a-danger-in-women-s-jails-5vhgh57pt?shareToken=a5c5b379f8c0f6ccd446176a676344e6

So pleased that I took out a subscription to the Times.

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theOtherPamAyres · 09/09/2018 00:55

GenderTrender have been digging

I see that one of the TIMs in Natacha's Facebook Conspirators Group was none other than Sahra Rae Taylor. She was on the Executive of the Green Party, holding some sort of portfolio until this year's elections. Young Greens. LBGTQWERTY. Challenor's chum.

www.city.ac.uk/arts-social-sciences/international-politics/research/phd-students/sahra-taylor

Datun · 09/09/2018 00:17

GenderTrender have been digging.

They say Kennedy tried to establish a trans children community called transkids. And when that didn't take off, advertised for children research subjects.

Can you just do this willy-nilly? Kennedy was promising confidentiality across the board.

The picture in the transkids graphic is disturbing.

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2018/09/08/all-the-named-academics-were-women-the-curious-campaign-of-goldsmith-universitys-mark-hellen/#comments

Materialist · 08/09/2018 22:38

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hipsterfun · 08/09/2018 22:23

PoMo: Enjoy as part of a balanced diet.

BettyDuMonde · 08/09/2018 22:15

Hipsterfun

That’s PoMo all over - works for art, not so good for appropriate medical care or law making!

SPOFS · 08/09/2018 22:01

I posted this in AIBU about an hour ago but had no response yet. Anyone wanna bump it up?

hipsterfun · 08/09/2018 21:54

Bob and Roberta Smith studied at Goldsmiths College. Sort of works when you’re an artist, not sure it’s a good look on an academic, tbh.

picklemepopcorn · 08/09/2018 19:04

Gendercritter

For people confused about he/him lesbians - my little brother is one. He identifies as a trans girl but he’s only 11 and isn’t comfortable switching his pronouns over yet. He likes girls. Therefore, he’s a he/him lesbian. Thank you for your time.

Huh?

It was a post in among the twitter threads that caught my eye. Made me think about the confused younger sibs of these people.

gendercritter · 08/09/2018 18:12

Which really does feed into my increasing conviction that TRAism is a sort of parasite neo-religion, which is why do many of it's adherents are impervious to rational argument. It's feeding on the religious impulse in human nature which bypasses the part of the brain that accepts simple facts and allows for the acceptance of wildly outlandish, even contradictory things.

This!!!

gendercritter · 08/09/2018 18:11

Er I didn't copy enough of your text! Sorry It was the post saying it's a neo-religion

gendercritter · 08/09/2018 18:11

Which really does feed into my increasing conviction

I think you're spot on. Very good post.

gendercritter · 08/09/2018 18:09

For people confused about he/him lesbians - my little brother is one. He identifies as a trans girl but he’s only 11 and isn’t comfortable switching his pronouns over yet. He likes girls. Therefore, he’s a he/him lesbian. Thank you for your time.

Huh?

SPOFS · 08/09/2018 17:50

Has anyone posted this on the main boards yet? I want to, but I want to check there isn't one already. Smile

hackmum · 08/09/2018 17:25

Cracking article by Lucy Bannerman - excellent piece of research; full, intelligent quotes from the female academics; absolutely incisive reporting.

Of course we've known for ages, haven't we, that Natacha and Mark co-authored that paper - I first saw it mentioned on this board months ago.

Goldsmiths, in my view, have a lot to answer for. Why are they allowing one of their staff to co-author articles with himself? Why is he listed under two different names in their staff directory? Why is being allowed to carry out a campaign of misogynistic bullying against distinguished female academics?

R0wantrees · 08/09/2018 17:04

Is the Bristol (all departments) a response to the disciplinary investigation of the student Nic Shall?

May 2018 From the thread below there is an open letter of support from 'feminist academics', which also smeared WPUK to the Vice Chancellor of Bristol University.
(Natacha Kennedy is a signatory)

openletterbristol.wordpress.com/

"Dear Professor Brady,

As feminist scholars, we are writing to express our concern at the news that disciplinary procedures have been initiated against a PhD student who petitioned against a discriminatory event associated with the University of Bristol.

The student, Nic Shall, wrote a petition opposing an event organised by the anti-trans campaign group “A Woman’s Place”. Shall has been accused by the Vice Chancellor’s office of writing a letter containing false information, attempting to suppress the free speech of fellow students, and bringing the university into disrepute. They have been threatened with expulsion.

We believe that the disciplinary action against Shall represents an attack on the democratic right to free expression, and that it is this action that brings the University of Bristol into disrepute. The student in question is, in effect, being threatened with expulsion for writing a petition. If the University of Bristol is to uphold the principle of free speech and encourage political debate, then students and staff must be afforded the right to openly express their principled opposition to bigotry and discrimination.

We further insist that Shall’s letter did not contain false information in stating that “A Women’s Place” provide a platform for hate speech. This group is committed solely to campaigning against trans rights, as enshrined in legislation such as the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and the Equality Act 2010. Speakers at events hosted by “A Women’s Place” have propagated ignorant and harmful narratives through the use of offensive stereotypes, drawing a false dichotomy between trans rights and women’s rights, and misrepresenting both empirical research and current laws. The group has thereby played a role in creating moral panic about trans people’s role in public life, and contributed to atmosphere of fear and shame among trans people.

Finally, we believe that the right to free speech must be balanced with a responsibility to promote respect and justice for all. The University of Bristol Equality and Diversity Policy states that the University aims to create an inclusive environment that respects the diversity of its staff and students. It further commits to complying with the requirements of the Equality Act 2010, which include a duty to advance equality of opportunity and foster good relations between people who share a protected characteristic and those who do not. The University of Bristol holds an Athena SWAN bronze award and is a Stonewall Diversity champion; both schemes require that the institution actively uphold the right of trans students and staff to participate in academic life on a free and equitable basis.

In threatening Shall with expulsion and offering tacit support to an openly anti-trans event, the University of Bristol has demonstrated that it does not provide an environment in which trans students and staff can reasonably participate in fair and open political debate. Both actions clearly violate the principles of the University’s Equality and Diversity policy, as well as the Athena SWAN charter and Stonewall Diversity Champion scheme.

As such, we hope that the Vice Chancellor’s office will act swiftly to dismiss the disciplinary against Nic Shall, and apologise for the hurt caused to trans students and staff by the institution’s position on the “A Woman’s Place” event."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3259500-Trans-Student-Faces-Expulsion-from-Univeristy-of-Bristol

WPUK response:
womansplaceuk.org/womans-place-bristol-university/

April 2018 Bristol University statement about free speech:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3233018-Freedom-of-Speech-A-statement-by-the-Chair-of-the-Universitys-Equality-Diversity-and-Inclusion-Group

ErrolTheDragon · 08/09/2018 16:43

I googled fae, it seems to have acquired quite a number of alternative meanings, but my favourite courtesy of the urban dictionary was 'fae fae' - a sad,sad person.

Iscreamforbenandjerrys · 08/09/2018 16:14

Fae
A fae is usually considered a young faery. It seems in most ancient literature, faes are most commonly under the ages of 13 or 14 years. In legends, the fae is usually described as "young and mischievous." There are a lot of modern uses for "fae" now though almost none are accurate to the traditional beliefs of the past. Confused

NameChangedAgain18 · 08/09/2018 16:12

If any student turned down a place at my university because of this, they’re the kind of student I’m happy to do without.

SunsetBeetch · 08/09/2018 16:08

Shut the free-thinking adults up and brainwash the young people. Grand plan.

SunsetBeetch · 08/09/2018 16:07

Hmmmmn so they were behind the list of "bad universities" that was circulated? If any student turned down a place at a good university because of this, they should be ashamed.

The Times -  smear campaign by trans lecturer at Goldsmiths
The Times -  smear campaign by trans lecturer at Goldsmiths
picklemepopcorn · 08/09/2018 15:19

Pah...

Replying to
@markiplayerz
, and
@hexpositivee
For people confused about he/him lesbians - my little brother is one. He identifies as a trans girl but he’s only 11 and isn’t comfortable switching his pronouns over yet. He likes girls. Therefore, he’s a he/him lesbian. Thank you for your time.

Sorry, got lost along the way...

Awayfromitall · 08/09/2018 15:13

Had to buy a paper copy of the Times to read this - grim reading, and glad this was exposed.

The article had a screenshot from Facebook in which Kennedy says that his list of 'transphobes' is necessary because universities are currently going through clearing.

Interesting how it's so often under the guise of 'but we have to help trans students' that this kind of bullying and smearing proceeds. I have seen this myself and find it very dubious and self-serving, to put it politely.

BettyDuMonde · 08/09/2018 15:00

Was out campaigning in person for Fair Play for Women for the first time today - met a young woman who had been part of a resistance at Durham Uni to keep toilets sex segregated. Well done, Durham Women undergrads and postgrads!

SunsetBeetch · 08/09/2018 14:35

So I'm guessing that there's a connection to this?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3340473-List-of-Universities-where-the-crazy-has-not-yet-set-in

R0wantrees · 08/09/2018 14:27

Julie Bindel has shared an article which includes correspondance by Natacha Kennedy, Jane Fae about their lobbying of the Royal College of Psychiatrists to 'shut down a conference discussing transgender issues'
(Also demonstrates close working with Jess (editor of Pink News)
uncommon-scents.blogspot.com/2011/04/email-correspondence-with-royal-college.html

NB the 'eminent psych' is Dr Az Hakeem who has edited and contributed to the recently published book:
'TRANS: Exploring Gender Identity and Gender Dysphoria, a guide for everyone including professionals'
www.amazon.co.uk/TRANS-Exploring-Identity-Dysphoria-Pulling-ebook/dp/B079NHQ5H5?tag=mumsnetforum-21

Julie Bindel tweet: twitter.com/bindelj/status/1038361263078813697

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