Caroline Lucas on Aimee Challoner in the Guardian

If the GP's own non-men section's statement gains any traction then I suspect that this matter may well be resolved with exonerations all round.

The unidentified independent investigator may well discover that AC passed on (unspecified) information to the GP and somebody failed to grasp the significance of it. As nobody raised objections, assorted Challenors felts emboldened to continue as officers for the GP or to stand in elections for the GP.

As for what happened to Healey, Olivia, and various others? Not within the scope and remit of the investigation.

They are all finished. Party politics was always a dirty game and the other parties are not going to leave out all this filth on the Green Party if they present any threat at local or general election time.

Bye bye Green Party and I say this as a passionate lover of conservation and green issues. You have let everyone down so badly I don't know how you sleep at night. Especially children and safeguarding. Pure evil to the very core.

Not only that, but the Green Party actively assisted AC in providing "evidence" for AC to get an injunction against Andy Healey, fellow Green Party member. Six pages of evidence.

Andy Healey has the court documents that demonstrate the evidence put forward by the Green Party to support AC in silencing gender critical views.

I'd be asking how many other injunctions has AC tried to take out against GP members? Or others outside the party?

And how many injunctions in total (not just the AC ones) did the GP provide evidence for in the last three years, for example?

I'm guessing that the GP has only ever provided evidence for an injunction in support of AC, and no other individual. And the Greens only did that for the sole reason that AC identifies as transgender.

The fact that the Greens colluded in this looks, at this stage, unwise. And begs the question about whether the co-leaders knew about this.

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CL's statement suggested to me that she had little engagement with large sections of the GP platform.

And that's a bit strange if she was speaking at MM's committee.

I said this before, but I think the injunction to stop that fellow Green putting forward his gender critical views is FAR more important than the twitter blocking. It is outrageous and undemocratic. Can someone raise it on Twitter with Caroline?

Have you noticed that when CL describes the plight of trans people, she's really talking about transexuals?

It's either a cynical political ploy or she hasn't done her homework.

She was on Maria Miller's Committee. You would think that she had acquired some knowledge of the range of people presenting as transgender, rather than swallowing the dodgy assertions of the Trans lobby.

I've never had much time for the Green Party but Caroline Lucas plumbs the depths of uselessness.

"I know Aimee was, yes, and I was very vocally opposed to it at the time internally. My party is run on democratic principles though & I have no privileged powers as co-leader."

This is seriously damning IMHO
Does this mean terfblocker was party policy? CL has a twitter account herself, could she not at the time have openly said that she didn't personally support this even if it sounds like the party did? How much power did AC and other TRA's have in the GP, it sounds like they were running the whole show.

“Here we have a candidate, Aimee, who has boasted of silencing 50,000 female possible voters, whose father, a trans/cross-dressing animal abuser is facing charges of rape, torture and imprisonment of a ten year old girl, and whose mother , also an animal abuser , is keen to be secretary and have lots of pretty data at her disposal, what do you think , Caroline ?”
“Hmm...”
“Also Aimee is Trans”
“Oh great, let’s set up some meetings”
“Oh and the Dad/cartoon cuddly bear/giant baby would like to do our posters too”
“Fab”.
Fucking brilliant

Gosh, that's quite a thing to admit to.

What was it Caroline Lucas said in The Guardian yesterday? Was it something about defending the right to free speech and replacing name calling with listening?

Bye Green Party.

And yes as red said (albeit possibly on another thread) all the other parties need to wake up too.

But if it's run democratically then that means that the majority either supported Aimee's plans or abstained from voting. Which doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the Greens as a party, or in their ability to investigate and resolve their current issue.

Not sure if this has already been flagged up ... I'm trying to follow too many threads at the mo, but Caroline Lucas has confirmed on Twitter that she was privy to conversations involving AC about mass blocking of GC accounts.

"I know Aimee was, yes, and I was very vocally opposed to it at the time internally. My party is run on democratic principles though & I have no privileged powers as co-leader."

Too little, too late. Shameful focus on trans rather than on the small girl, and the enormous safeguarding risks taken by AC and the party.
“Here we have a candidate, Aimee, who has boasted of silencing 50,000 female possible voters, whose father, a trans/cross-dressing animal abuser is facing charges of rape, torture and imprisonment of a ten year old girl, and whose mother , also an animal abuser , is keen to be secretary and have lots of pretty data at her disposal, what do you think , Caroline ?”
“Hmm...”
“Also Aimee is Trans”
“Oh great, let’s set up some meetings”
“Oh and the Dad/cartoon cuddly bear/giant baby would like to do our posters too”
“Fab”.

One could be forgiven for thinking that Lucas could scarcely have tried any harder, in that statement, to provoke the public.

It did fleetingly occur to me that it might have been tactical, but surely she would have known the effect it would have had on her personally.

I find it pretty incredible that no other Green Party members would have been FB friends

Nah, I wouldn't be surprised if no one wanted to be friends with them

In those three years, I've grown, I've become a trustee of Coventry Pride, a registered charity

And the rest of your above post R0wantrees are shocking. Utterly shocking.

Does anyone have a list of the best order to read the AC/GP threads in? My friends aren’t MN users in general and are getting a bit lost with the back and forth.

YouGov Guidance for trustees of charities:
(extract)
"When you and your co-trustees make decisions about your charity, you must:

act within your powers
act in good faith, and only in the interests of your charity
make sure you are sufficiently informed, taking any advice you need
take account of all relevant factors you are aware of
ignore any irrelevant factors
deal with conflicts of interest and loyalty
make decisions that are within the range of decisions that a reasonable trustee body could make in the circumstances
You should record how you made more significant decisions in case you need to review or explain them in the future."

[www.gov.uk/guidance/charity-trustee-whats-involved

I keep hearing the words "the police should have told the Green Party about the GP Coventry HQ being a crime scene".

Er...... no. There are laws about what the police can and cannot disclose and to whom. Police officers get sacked when they get it wrong.

HuffPost article January 13th 2017 by Aimee Challenor
"Three years ago, when I was sixteen years old, I took a huge step in my life: I went to prom. I went to prom, like hundreds of thousands of school leavers that year, and, just like so many others, I wore a dress to prom. That's how I came out as transgender to my conservative private secondary school.

Three years is both a very short time and an eternity. In those three years, I've grown, I've become a trustee of Coventry Pride, a registered charity, and been involved in organising our local LGBT+ celebration since 2015. I joined the Green Party, was elected chair of LGBTIQA+ Greens, and now find myself the equalities spokesperson for the party. I've grown. I've progressed. I've achieved. I am still growing."
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/aimee-challenor/trans-children-who-knows-best_b_14143156.html

28th August 2018 Coventry Pride Statement:
"Mr [David] Challenor volunteered for the Charity in 2015 and 2016 he assisted with event set up and take down, and designing some posters and leaflets. The Trustees were made aware of criminal proceedings being taken against Mr Challenor in November 2016. A directive was issued to those responsible for volunteer recruitment that Mr Challenor was not to be accepted as a volunteer at the Charity’s events and if he attended public events organised by the Charity he was monitored by the trustees. Mr Challenor no longer has any links with the Charity."

www.coventrypride.org.uk/2018/08/28/a-statement-from-the-trustees-of-coventry-pride/

Andrew Gilligan tweet yesterday:
"This, by Coventry Pride, is really tricky for Aimee Challenor. She was a trustee at the time (Nov 2016) when the trustees were "made aware of criminal proceedings being taken against [her father]" and banned him. But she still used him as her agent in 2017 and 2018 elections".

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3346800-Andrew-Gilligan-Sunday-Times-Challenor-Green-Party?pg=20

apologies, meant to ammend to say 'CL in Guardian yesterday'

comment from thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3347925-Green-Party-statement-continuation-thread

Can't see her status cos I'm blocked. [big grin]

Caroline Lucas in Guardian today:
"I have faced many calls for immediate action against Aimee – calls that fail to understand the very limited powers I have as a party co-leader and that assume I would be prepared to ditch the fundamental right to due process and a fair hearing. Justice and truth must not be further victims of David Challenor’s crimes and nor must trans people’s rights."

Aimee Challoner Oct 2017 statement to Westminster committee on standards in public life:
"With respect to the Green Party, there is an executive, and a regional committee. We can recall leadership if they are bringing the Party into disrepute. There have been no difficulties with Caroline Lucas or our other Spokespeople."

twitter.com/AimeeChallenor/status/1035526985643118592

there are links to AC's possible influence at the end of the thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3347575-Aimee-Challenors-resignation