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Looks like Grindr are setting up a trans version... but the name...

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ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 10/08/2018 19:29

They've chosen is "kindr".

Given the disturbing underground usage of the term "kind" is that not an odd choice?

They've not said exactly what the new app is but from the video it does imply it's trans-focused.

Looks like Grindr are setting up a trans version... but the name...
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Datun · 10/08/2018 20:44

Whoever's behind this is an absolute idiot. Or completely addled in their social media echo chamber.

No-one is going to accept a dating site called Kindr for men who self identify.

No one.

Popchyk · 10/08/2018 20:37

So how exactly are they going to do the whole "Don't fancy fatties? Why don't you just shag one anyway in order to be kind?" thing?

Have they mentioned that?

Datun · 10/08/2018 20:37

sexual racism, and transphobia and body shaming'.

This is people discriminating on the basis of either sexual orientation or preference.

Neither of which is up for question.

What's the alternative? Have sex with me, despite not wanting to?

That's rape.

theOtherPamAyres · 10/08/2018 20:35

Is Kindr any relation to the slogan "kinder, kuche, kircher" (children, kitchen, church) adopted by Hitler and the Third Reich to describe a particular gender role? (Clue: not masculine gender role)

Whenever I hear Kinder or see Kinder chocs - I have an involuntary response of filling in the rest of the slogan. (Shiver, shiver)

Have they thought this through?

pombear · 10/08/2018 20:25

I agree that the name is questionable. Reading an article about it in The Advocate, I think this may be an interesting development in the debate.

www.advocate.com/people/2018/8/01/grindrs-kindr-first-step-fighting-sexual-racism

It looks less like a new trans app, and more like a campaign and changes to Grindr, to stop what they call 'sexual racism, and transphobia and body shaming'.

One that may finally stimulate an 'is it transphobic sexual discrimination or is it sexual orientation and preferences'' debate within the gay community.

This is like the flip side of a Riley J Dennis youtube edition.

I wonder whether a male equivalent of Magdalen Berns will emerge?

(Not that there could ever be an equivalent to the wonderful Magdalen!)

TheDishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 10/08/2018 20:19

What the actual hell is that confessions! ShockAngry

DJLippy · 10/08/2018 20:18

This is a thread with a link to Dr Em's original tweet with more details for reference.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3237699-Thread-on-twitter-The-paedophilia-plan

TheDishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 10/08/2018 20:15

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/08/2018 20:12

I'm confused. I thought that a trans specific dating app was all sorts of exclusionary as trans women are women etc. Confused

MrsFogi · 10/08/2018 20:10

Not kind to say that men have penises.
Not kind to question the right to self-identify at will.
Not kind for women to reject transwomen.
Not kind for a lesbian to reject a transwoman.
Not kind for a teenage girl or boy to reject a transwoman........

SisterNotCisTerf · 10/08/2018 20:10

Is tinder a part of Grindr?

DickTERFin · 10/08/2018 20:10

K-I-ndr does rhyme with Grindr but K-in-der rhymes with Tindr and you would have to be a moron not to realise that some people will read it that way. Why, if you are aware that there are people who associate your community with peodopholia, however unjustified that may be, would you not be more careful with your marketing?!

It’s almost like you want to encourage misunderstanding and persecution.

Or perhaps you are so punch drunk on societal coercion that it’s good sport to pull this nonsense in plain sight, knowing that the woke brigade will back you will defend any and every decision, uncritically.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 10/08/2018 20:09

Here's the screencap from the manifesto (and Twitter commentary)

Looks like Grindr are setting up a trans version... but the name...
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ADastardlyThing · 10/08/2018 20:09

Jesus just when I think it can't get any worse. That's so blatent.

MrsFogi · 10/08/2018 20:08

And this is why people need to start speaking their mind in RL about the impact of the trans movement in its current form. Time to say that the Emperor has no clothes.

DJLippy · 10/08/2018 20:08

Even if it isn't a paedo reference it's such a cunty name.

Because of all the big meanie gays with their hateful transphobic sexual orientations!

Melamin · 10/08/2018 20:06

There is no way they are not aware of its other use. It was all over that manifesto put out on twitter.

hackmum · 10/08/2018 20:05

Bit more about it here:

www.gaytimes.co.uk/news/111458/grindr-hints-at-new-kindr-version-of-the-dating-app-to-tackle-discrimination/

I think it's supposed to be "kinder" as in rhymes with "Grindr", not "kinder" as in the German for children. But obviously not a great choice.

Melamin · 10/08/2018 20:05

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/27/grindr-racism-kindr-announcment/

There is a pink news article from July

sexnotgender · 10/08/2018 20:02

I was just a little sick in my mouth Envy

OlennasWimple · 10/08/2018 20:02

This....this can't be serious?! Shock

FloralBunting · 10/08/2018 19:59

Oh come on.

Can someone please uncover this as 4chan wind up effort? Because for someone to think this is fine has all sorts of consequences about the world that I don't really want to acknowledge.

SisterNotCisTerf · 10/08/2018 19:52

and the tagline: “It's time to play nice.”

That’s fucking sick. What’s wrong with them? Do they think that’s a joke?

FermatsTheorem · 10/08/2018 19:51

What the fuck?

There's no way they could have not noticed this. Big brands (and Grindr is a big brand) employ people to check out that their new product lines don't have names with unfortunate connotations in other languages. And German is not exactly an obscure language.

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