"Transphobic protesters" at Pride

Challenge it politely and factually. Its so easy to challenge.

You're right that this is the way to do it online. But honestly, it's so bloody hard with a lot of the libfems who won't even engage with a discussion.

I got blocked recently by one who simply parrotted TWAW and when I provided the requested 'evidence' (of the dangers of male fetishists, TWs in women's prisons, etc etc), told me I was a t*rf, didn't support women and that was the end of it.

I felt genuinely dismayed and weary at the end of it.

The 8 of us did something important that day.

Blythe Yes you did. And it keeps growing because, as you say, when someone criticises what you did, they are illustrating why you needed to do it.

Stonewall and Pride are having to walk the "same-sex attraction is great"/"same-sex attraction is transphobic" tightrope.
Good summary Popchyk

I think I can die happy now. Julie Birchill has called us 'strong broads'.

www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/more-trans-pride-oh-please-no/21649#.W2VOhivTXqq

I appreciate Birchill is like marmite, not to everyone s taste but I bloody love her.

Thanks for coming on Blythe

I so much admire you and your sisters, Blythe.

Well done Blythe

I think it will become a pivotal moment. There is a change in the air now that regular people are getting a taste of what 'transactivism' is about. We have already seen that libfem 'allies' are leaving in droves (the new misogyny in a frock, much the same as the old misogyny in trousers). Now finally, the dudes in the alphabet are starting to speak out (a bit).

Which will all end with the T, standing alone on a hill somewhere, waving around a lobster flag.

threads:
London Pride- 'Get the L Out' :
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301033-Get-the-L-Out-Statement-by-the-lesbian-protesters-at-Pride-London

Anne Lister:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318306-Anne-Lister-was-not-a-Lesbian-but-Gender-Non-Conforming

Magdalen Berns:
"In this video Magdalen Berns deconstructs some anti-lesbian nonsense from queer ideologues, Stevie and Zoie who don’t seem too impressed by the recent Pride in London action by lesbian-led feminist group #getthelout."

Same at my work OP.

The Pink News piece was posted to our LGBT allies group along with a whole lot of evil terfs rhetoric. Couldn't say anything, of course.

Both the Allies and the LGBT group itself are focussing on trans issues to the exclusion of almost everything else. We've had Stonewall speakers and training. We even got the video of the trans poet saying 'I am a woman with a penis' and our chair (a lesbian!) wibbled how inspiring it was. We had a trans woman who posted about the Hyde Park attack and said that Maria had actually got the protestor in a headlock.

Again, I felt I couldn't contradict her (this was before the court case).

Anyway, sorry to go on, I don't have much opportunity...I could say so much more but it's not my thread

Yesterday I received an email linking a blog post about the right wing transphobic protesters at pride. I sent an email simply explaining that they weren't - they were protesting lesbians being called transphobic for basing their sexuality on sex not internal gender etc etc

blog person wrote back VERY apologetic.

Challenge it politely and factually. Its so easy to challenge.

I think the press just can't bothered with facts when it comes to feminism. We are all just uppity for daring to have an opinion. How dare we say "no" to people who were observed to be male the day they were born? Oh well, we do. They must learn to live with it.

Well done for doing the protest.

That would be a job well done.
I do think Stonewall's days are numbered as the foremost LGBT charity. Let's hope whatever comes next is not a homophobic mouthpiece for the trasnscult.

Well done, Blythe.

Stonewall and Pride are having to walk the "same-sex attraction is great"/"same-sex attraction is transphobic" tightrope.

And the only way they can do it is with the words and bodies don't mean anything codswallop.

And they won't get away with that for long.

After a bloody civil war, I predict that Stonewall will become a trans-only organisation (with non-binary, gender-fluid chucked in).

And Pride will be a LGB-only organisation.

The 8 of us did something important that day.

Yes you did. Thank you, each and every one of you, from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you Blythe.

Well done 8 amazing women!

You even got a mention on the R4 PM piece from the Pride organiser in Brighton who was sure you were coming to disrupt the Transpride They don't seem to understand that lesbians need to keep their own rights! It is all about them.

Blythe.

Strong courageous all of u 👏👏👏👏👏

I was at pride.

well done

well done

well done

and thank you

Yes my workplace had similar. The corporate world is very involved with pride, much talk about "inclusion", jumping on the bandwagon by displaying rainbow versions of logos etc.

well done Blythe and your sisters too

And thank you Blythe. You are AMAZING

Thanks Blythe, I've got your back!

Actually your business has a twofer violating the sex discrimination and sexual orientation protections in the Equality Act.

It is illegal for your place of work to be promoting homophobia by publishing this kind of propaganda. I suggest you advise your personnel dept or supervisor that they are in violation of the law.

Many trans activists have tried to assert that we (the 8 lesbians) who protested Pride have rallied those that disagree with us, and that somehow our protest failed. Once or twice online I almost thought they were right, but then a trickle of support became a stream, and then a river ...

Every day now, I see articles round the world or posts or tweets saying something along the lines of 'I see what those women at London. pride were saying now, because I notice that lesbian is being treated like a dirty word'.
The Anne Lister plague fiasco helped consolidated that message.
The silly pair in America who Magdalen Berns took down who discussed it, helped our message.

Discussing the very idea that lesbians don't want to be called queer is an achievement.

My fellow banner holder that controversially said LESBIAN=FEMALE HOMOSEXUAL has been doxxed online by no less than one of the Pride officials. She has very sensibly registered the behaviour as a hate crime, as have we all.

So even though the heat has been greater than the current weather, the behaviour towards us has been a perfect illustration and vindication of our protest.

Right now, lesbians are painting signs that say 'dykes against terfs' or 'lesbians against terfs'.
I have no hatred for them as they have for us, I feel sad for them, because they don't yet realise they've been duped. But they will.

Right now drag queens are sharing their irritation at trans activists for telling them they can't say they're men in dresses.
Since the protest a founder of Stonewall has written in the press that the organisation has lost it's way.
So the lgbtquiiaapqrst brigade may say they've seen us off, but they haven't, because the word is still spreading and it will go on spreading.
The 8 of us did something important that day.
And mumsnet helped to make me courageous enough to do it.

OP can you raise an anonymous grievance? Or call the whistleblower line, if your firm has one? Also, an email to the CEO is always worth a shot. Most CEOs don't like controversy and you may find the intranet page taken down fairly sharpish.
Don't email from work and use one of the ten minute mail services.