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Gender Critical Greatest Hits

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FloriDada · 27/07/2018 11:06

I am trying to compile a list of the key highlights of the gender debate, a ‘greatest hits’ if you will Grin of the most succinct and shocking things that have happened over the past few years. The sort of thing that would ‘peak’ people.

It’s for a (creative) project that I can’t say anything about just now.

If you could contribute anything I would be very grateful. The kind of things I have so far are:

Bomb threat against WPUK

Danielle Muscato taking a place in a woman’s shelter and tweeting “some women have penises. If you’re bothered by this you can suck my dick”

Shon Faye “enjoy your erasure”

Lily Madigan comparing race for life with apartheid. Looking for a more up to date Lily abomination but there are so many, any suggestions?

Kimberley Nixon suing Vancouver rape relief

What would you add to the greatest hits?

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D0do · 10/08/2018 06:15

That was the fragrant and delicate Danielle Muscato. Tweet still on Twitter. I don't think it was aimed at a specific person. It was DM's message to the world on International Women's Day. 'TWAW and if you don't like that you can... '

IAmInsignificunt · 10/08/2018 00:40

Who was the person who told a teenager to “suck their lady dick” or something along those lines?

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 19:30

These people have no empathy for women.

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 19:28

dont think have ever seen such openly expressed callous contempt for rape survivors and dv survivors. At least it used to hide behind the language of everyone is committed to dv as a priority...I never thought I would witness such callous disregard, aggression and contempt aimed at the most vulnerable by definition...its staggering to see.

As a survivor I'm finding the crowing about it by TRAs on Twitter very upsetting.

theOtherPamAyres · 04/08/2018 18:38

I'm mindful that this is a creative project, where images and slogans are powerful. Let me tell you of some images that I find haunting and one that (sort of) amuses me in the Greatest Hits parade.

There's a photo of one of Stonewalls Leadership Training sessions for Google and Vodaphone. The website shows a happy clappy class of diverse people with men holding signs like "I will speak up for Trans Rights" and "I will lead the way for my community".

I can visualise myself photoshopped into the middle with the sub-titles: "he will give men rights at the expense of women and children" and "he leads the community anyway - any room for me?"

I look at Ireland - still high on its achievements as the world's most woke nation. It has embraced a faith-based ideology wholeheartedly but it wasn't very long ago that it was suffering (and continues to suffer) from the abusers hiding in the vestments of the Catholic faith. The irony of swapping one faith for another risky ideology blows my mind.

I look at the trans umbrella and a joke pops into my head. It's not funny (oooh, there's my pink brain showing - women can't tell jokes!)

A cross-dresser, a transvestite and a drag queen walk into a bar and the barwoman points to the door and says.......

TIME, GENTLEMAN PLEASE."

Bingpot · 04/08/2018 17:58

L Madigan's belief that Muslim women unwilling to share their space with men simply need to be re-educated.
It's ok to discriminate against others, as long as you get what you want...

Gender Critical Greatest Hits
R0wantrees · 04/08/2018 17:47

Canada current situation:
Woman in refuge forced to share room with male born person, denied HR legal support when she describes the person as male.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3326360-Canadian-woman-denied-legal-rights-support-because-of-misgendering-a-male-presenting-transwoman

lisamuggeridge · 04/08/2018 17:36

The list of oppressors here and the weapons used against those 'oppressors' is extraordinry. Mothers, lesbians, domestic abuse and rape survivors and teenage girls.

lisamuggeridge · 04/08/2018 17:35

I dont think have ever seen such openly expressed callous contempt for rape survivors and dv survivors. At least it used to hide behind the language of everyone is committed to dv as a priority...I never thought I would witness such callous disregard, aggression and contempt aimed at the most vulnerable by definition...its staggering to see.

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 16:48

Appalling manipulative "research" into the issue of MTFs in women's refuges from Stonewall. They don't ask female service users (as they clearly should have done) because they know they value single sex spaces.

TimeLady · 04/08/2018 09:40

#itneverhappens story from Singapore

www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nus-student-molested-classmate-peeped-at-woman-in-shower-10574260

NUS student who molested classmate in computer lab, peeped at woman in shower jailed

SoftDay · 02/08/2018 13:59

It is extraordinary seeing all this stuff together in one place. As others have said, how comforting it would be to dismiss it all as the blatherings of Twitter gobshites; unfortunately, these gobshites are influencing public policy and legislative provision.

Trans activism in its current incarnation has nothing to do with protecting and safeguarding transsexuals - it is very clearly a men's sexual rights movement. How can so many women not see this?

Here in Ireland, "progressive" political activism, including so-called feminist activism, has been absolutely overtaken by aggressive trans ideology. One of my own many personal peak trans moments was the letter by Irish feminists denouncing UK T%%Fism. feministire.com/2018/01/22/an-open-letter-to-the-organisers-of-the-we-need-to-talk-tour-from-a-group-of-feminists-in-ireland/
No acknowledgment at all that British women have, for many decades, provided practical, emotional and financial support to Irish women - the becunted, bewombed kind - desperate to access abortion services. Repugnant stuff. "Not your fluffy kind of feminism", me hole.

We're so giddy at the notion of ourselves as the newly minted Most Woke Nation on Earth that we've entirely lost the run of ourselves.

MrsBodger · 02/08/2018 10:15

Mt Holyoke College in the US dropped its production of the Vagina Monologues because it was ‘reductionist and exclusionary’. This is a long established women’s college that now accepts transwomen. So even though the playwright had written a new monologue about a trans character it still wasn’t enough. Anything to do with women that is not about trans is not allowed.

AbsintheFriends · 02/08/2018 08:53

Venice Allan's and Jennifer James's separate interrogations by the Labour Party. Reading the transcriptions of those made my blood run cold.

Materialist · 02/08/2018 08:48

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noeffingidea · 02/08/2018 07:47

Twitter tantrums when women wore pink pussy hats on the women's marches.

TransplantsArePlants · 02/08/2018 06:17

Bump

lisamuggeridge · 30/07/2018 17:39

I heard today that describing Jess Bradley's indecent exposure, with a focus on undermining womens consent, is just kinkshaming. Apparently it makes you marginalised does indecent exposure, cos people are bigots.

lisamuggeridge · 30/07/2018 17:38

Sane people dont believe this is happening, sane people believe people describing this have clearly lost their minds..

LangCleg · 30/07/2018 17:37

I rather liked that being critical of the allegations against Jess Bradley is a contravention of the Geneva Conventions.

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/07/2018 17:19

The stuff in this thread sounds made up, its too absurd and yet THIS is the debate we are expected to indulge. Its ridiculous.

I know. I think because most of it seems too ludicrous to be true, it's dismissed by many otherwise rational people.

lisamuggeridge · 30/07/2018 17:04

The whole thing is so stupid. It is predicated on media organisations and posh students beig threatening and controlling enough that we wont describe what is in front of us. The stuff in this thread sounds made up, its too absurd and yet THIS is the debate we are expected to indulge. Its ridiculous.

Bingpot · 30/07/2018 16:54

Perhaps trivial in the context of other examples, but this doctor blathering on about how to identify transgender issues in pre-verbal children is fairly shocking.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KBZeRC1RI

BlackeyedSusan · 30/07/2018 01:07

I wonder if Maria Miller has changed her opinion on the value of the advice offered?