Misogynistic bros part 1 zillion: Stephen Fry

Current thread re the new Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab MP:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301572-Dominic-Raab-We-must-end-feminist-bigotry

I had forgotten about Stephen's valuable insights into female heterosxuality and sex lives.

I've been wondering which of Stephen Fry's female friends may have been in touch with him.

Inclusive means : budge up on the bench, and if you fall off the end, hard luck

Inclusive generally just means ‘about men’, I’m sure most intelligent women have grasped that now.

I feel sure that Stephen Fry has read Orwell's Ninety Eighty Four & Animal Farm.

Stephen Fry thinks women don’t really like sex but accept it as athe price of a relationship and it’s THE MEN that he feels sorry for in this dynamic??

Unlike OJ he is intelligent enough to see the connection.

I'd say that he probably feels the urge to be intellectually consistent. OJ has recognised that intellectual consistency is not necessary in the current climate. All you need to do is grab the moral high ground and then you can say whatever you like, no matter how muddled it is. Be seen to be moral, get the followers, then get the mantras going on social media to denounce the non-moral.

Oops pressed too soon.

#ManFriday Churchillian response to John Bercow:

"I’ve posted a thread in chat if anyone wants to share their postcards out in the wilds."

thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3299190-Send-a-postcard-to-John-Bercow

OP YesItsADebate wrote:
Speaker of the House of Commons, pompous bully John Bercow is in Pink News quoting Churchill and slating women for talking about their own rights. See: thread and Prick News. The #ManFriday lot + friends are sending Mr Bercow postcards with apposite Churchill quotes. Do join in if you fancy it. His address is:

John Bercow
Speakers Office
House of Commons
SW1A 0AA
U.K. (for you overseas lot. You know you want to!)

I posted mine earlier.

Here are some quotes: BBC America list

recent thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3298016-John-Bercows-rant-about-Gender-Critical-women

Transplants

Oh, I agree, but his National treasure shell is very much starting to crack.

As a very high profile gay man he would have done much better to just stay quiet on the whole thing, regardless of his views, just like Sandi Toksvig, Sue Perkins and Claire Balding are doing. I’m sure those women have opinions on this topic, and I wouldn’t like to guess where they lie, but they aren’t voicing them.

I’ve thought about tweeting sportswomen on this issue - but I don’t want to put them on the spot and have transborg and OJ descend on them - i just can’t do it to them. I met Judy Murray recently and was very tempted to bring it up/ especially as she faced a huge amount of sexism in her role in sport and from the media

Yes. Unlike OJ he is intelligent enough to see the connection.

I wonder if the deletion was due to someone someone pointing out that the continuation of Fry’s train of thought is that he (and other gay men) should enjoy interacting with female sexual organs when they are attached to transmen?

Because he has been incredibly outspoken re: his opinions on how yukky vaginas are, so it would be a very difficult circle to square, in his mind.

Thanks Daim, not like you to be so helpful here.... waits for MN to find some spurious excuse to delete the tweet

Homeopathic feminism

How cowardly to delete the tweet and not say anything to replace it.

OMG homeopathic feminism! 😂

Homeopathic feminism “It might look just like the patriarchy to you, but actually it contains the molecule memory of an Andrea Dworkin book we briefly held near it once, therefore it’s feminist!”

Homeopathic feminism!! 🤣🤣

Inclusive feminism is feminism watered down until there isn't a single molecule of feminism present. Perhaps they should call it homeopathic feminism.

Melanippe

He has lots of his own demons, which he chooses to process by commenting on other people. It's not fair, the power he has. And he's not as clever as others think he is. There's this sort of hero-worship of him as a posho that is really regressive

Agree, but one thing I would expect, is I would expect LGBT pride to be inclusive of female attracted homosexual people (aka lesbians).

Yes, definitely!

I guess the problem with inclusivity is that eventually you will start getting groups within your group which clash, which is what is happening in LGBT right now?

"Why does everything have to be inclusive?"

Agree, but one thing I would expect, is I would expect LGBT pride to be inclusive of female attracted homosexual people (aka lesbians).