Great piece by academic Kathleen Stock (mentions MN)

But if only you would educate yourself, Bowl!

The idea that the rest of the world had no idea how babby is formed until white Europeans showed up is so jaw-droppingly racist that I can never quite believe people are saying it while patting themselves on the back for being virtuous.

I’m efficient and have had the benefit of some interesting career accelerations as well ;) too much more would be outing, but I’m happy to let MNHQ see any qualification I have (apart from the swimming certificates, fuck knows where they are, somewhere in a dark parental loft I imagine...)

Anyway:
Double degree - age 18 to 21
Masters 1- to 22
Masters 2 and PhD run concurrently as is the norm 22 -25 (i was fairly skint and so very very keen to get done on time)
Postdoc 1 - to 27 - two year fellowship
Postdoc 2 - to 30 - standard three year soft money (sigh...)

Christ, did I have that much energy??

Career bridging academic work and clinical work and gradually moving almost totally to clinical research 30 to present day.

My age is none of your business, but I’m very lucky to be pregnant. ;)

I shall not be publishing my CV, publication list, exact age or current professional credentials though. Some rather unpleasant people out there who like to target GC feminists you see :)

Is there a Sorting Hat for these Houses?

Was going to say something unkind about Slytherin but too obvious and not all houses have to be defined by Harry Potter.

❤️

Great article and great discussion.
Anyone else been calculating the time taken to achieve all those amazing academic qualifications and professional life .... AND still be young and fertile enough to be “ a little bit pregnant “?? Very impressive.

Theres stars!!!!!!!!

Oh my actual god...this thread gets better and better

...tacks star chart to wall

Denizens of MN: your mix of critical thought, expertise, sheer doggedness and irreverent humour is why MN is what it is. I salute you all.

works they can earn five house points

Wait...what??

We have houses!!!

There are points!!!!!

Bowl

This stood out from the article for me
"One by one, the familiar words women have used to describe themselves tumble like a chain of dominoes."

Bowl!

Clown fish... won't somebody think about the clown fish

And don't forget about the poor strawberries...

That is a really, really excellent piece.

Damns swift response (and questioning of Bowls credentials) was just perfect too.

I demand to see your swimming certificates, Bowl .

I am but a lowly physical scientist, though I did do my PhD in a department with an international reputation (no Nobel laureates, though - may have to see if I can find my cycling proficiency certificate as well as the swimming certificates, to redress the balance) and now work in a research institute which is one of the top three in its field.

Funnily enough, despite being in physical sciences rather than biology, any sort of serious science training does enable you to detect pseudo-science bullshit being spouted. And boy, does it get spouted a lot. (Clown fish... won't somebody think about the clown fish?)

R0wantrees did it?
Who is insisting?

" Is that enough for you or is there perhaps a swimming certificate or two I can add in as well? " bowl Maybe a good handwritng award too?

Can I mention to all you fecking heathens that popcorm is best made in a pot on the stove. Then you must add hot melted butter and obtain a cold beer from the fridge

BaronessBlonde

The instistance we should use 'non-trans women' started on some threads in the FWR (Feminism & Women's Rights) board of Mumsnet yesterday.

Kathleen Stock tweets: twitter.com/Docstockk

Writes: medium.com/@kathleenstock

Further quotes, links to twitter and writings at the second half of the thread below (after de-rail attempt #2):

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3284251-Lisa-Muggeridge-Suspended-by-Twitter-and-Quoting-her-breaches-MN-Guidelines

Excellent article.

Great piece- what is really admirable is that she links to someone who is trying to refute her argument.
That author (Talia Mae Betcher) refers to adult-human-females as "non-trans women".
I find that language appalling and absurd.

Talia Mae states "Stock’s okay with a big, hairy trans guy using “female body-only spaces”? Even if he’s had phalloplasty and a hysterectomy? Just so long as he’s got xx chromosomes? ".

Now, I run I in rather confined circles, and am probably a tad naive. But, I would love to hear from one of these "big, hairy, trans guys" .
I cannot imagine them being more of a threat to me, than a former man.

Who'd a thunk it? The cunty women aren't all the same! Some of them are different from others! They have areas of expertise! You don't just go to the Cunty Women Emporium and buy one! This means that stock (fallacious) arguments can't be universally applied!

Well. My eyes are well and truly opened.

I also go to bed rather early these days, I’m afraid my pesky female biology has made me a bit pregnant (if anyone from class 3b can answer how that works they can earn five house points)

Actual LOLs.

Boom

Bravo Kathleen, again 😁