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Schoolgirls successfully challenge imposition of all gender neutral toilets

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enoughisenoughtoday · 26/06/2018 18:07

Today's Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/genderneutral-toilets-my-daughter-was-called-selfish-for-wanting-girlsonly-loos-at-school-cwth60b2c?shareToken=9fab5475d7d35b0766e60529518947cc

This is what happens when people have to listen to girls (and women. And the comments are good.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 26/06/2018 20:30

Good for her and her fellow female students! The implementation sounds a lot more sensible and respectful than blanket changes or use of the accessible (quoted in the article disabled) toilets. Wtf. Shock Both single sex and disability is protected under the Equality Act so it’s disgusting that accessible loos are being used as trans changing facilities / toilet.

I read about the blanket changes in Scotland on another thread. I hope school girls up there campaign hard for their rights too.

mancheeze · 26/06/2018 20:28

So proud of mom and daughter for standing up to the transbullies.

Girls know why males can't be trusted, even at that age.

Bowlofbabelfish · 26/06/2018 20:11

This is the first time to my knowledge a group have ever lobbied so determinedly to have safeguarding principles for children set aside

And yet nobody is asking who is doing this. And why they are doing this. And who is funding this.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 20:06

Oh probably. I would take the word of the Police over a bridge dweller any day of the week.

If someone of the opposite sex is in a space where children are likely to be in an intimate situation, they will be removed if they don't leave themselves. I've had that on the phone this evening from the Police. It really is that simple.

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enoughisenoughtoday · 26/06/2018 20:02

spontaneous
The police and the rest of us working in public services / education know that it is always safeguarding first. This is the first time to my knowledge a group have ever lobbied so determinedly to have safeguarding principles for children set aside - the only exception was a group in the 1970s / 80s that didn't last long once their unhealthy interest in children was exposed.

However, I'm sure it won't be long before one of our resident "experts" pops up to tell us how wrong the police (and the rest of us) are.

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HermioneWeasley · 26/06/2018 19:53

Well done to this girl and her mum. She’s a future world changer

Viago · 26/06/2018 19:52

Well done this girl. Also The Times comments are pretty much all in agreement and praising her too.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 19:52

Should have added: Police say, safeguarding first - always.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 19:51

I've spoken to the Police on 101 tonight. If you have little girls in a changing room you can calmly and politely and in private ask a person who presents opposite to their birth sex to leave. If they refuse phone 999 to prevent a breach of the peace.

Bowlofbabelfish · 26/06/2018 19:50

Good girl!

I do agree about the disabled loos though. They mustn’t be appropriated in this either. There’s poor enough provision for disabled changing/toilets etc.

If a school has resources to unisex everything they have resources to ADD a few unisex single occupancy loos as well as jeep disabled provision.

Lefthanddown · 26/06/2018 19:43

Well done the girl and her supportive family.

Though it's disappointing that the school implemented unisex toilets without consultation, then made the girls jump through hoops to get single sex loos reimplemented. The adult staff of that school may be teaching the students, but it appears that they know fuck all about the wants and needs of the majority of young people

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enoughisenoughtoday · 26/06/2018 19:21

This is what happens when girls are free to speak and not silenced by roars of 'transphobe' and 'bigot' . They stand up for their rights to privacy, safety and dignity .

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Typeractive · 26/06/2018 19:11

Fantastic news! What a great campaign this girl ran. I'm not surprised that her mum is so very proud of her.

Let's hope her example will inspire others to action.

GlitterGlue · 26/06/2018 18:53

Good for them. I’d hate to share loos at work with the men.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 18:40

I feel like this may clarify things for people who're unfamiliar...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury

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enoughisenoughtoday · 26/06/2018 18:40

The National Association of Headteachers promotes this for teachers : discussed here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3111547-New-batshit-NAHT-guidelines-on-trans-in-schools

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LemonJello · 26/06/2018 18:35

Well done that student, but she shouldn't have had to do all that. It should have been obvious to the school leadership from the get-go.

Couldn’t agree more. Did the school do an equality impact assessment before they made all the toilets unisex I wonder?

LemonJello · 26/06/2018 18:34

Whoop whoop! The tide is definitely turning. Yaaassss!!

Well done that girl.

LittleLebowski · 26/06/2018 18:30

Common sense and totally obvious consequences of such a sweeping move. This is what worries me the most; a rush to make everything unisex/gender neutral just to look cool and progressive with any other consideration being steamrolled. Well done that student, but she shouldn't have had to do all that. It should have been obvious to the school leadership from the get-go.
Anyway well done her. Makes up for this old toss in the Guardian on the cruelty of excluding trans women from single sex spaces.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/26/trans-women-single-sex-spaces-cruel-impossible

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enoughisenoughtoday · 26/06/2018 18:28

Teenage girls are on the front line as they learn to manage puberty, their changing bodies, periods, not to mention their self image and developing sexual relationships in a porn soaked world.
These girls should be so proud of themselves for dealing with this in a respectful and democratic way (note to TRAs, no bullying, no bomb threats, no masked men, no doxxing, no threats). Just a conventional petition, a school council meeting, speaking, listening and being heard - alongside a good dose of determination and courage.

I really hope there is a special place in hell reserved for those adults who put their own needs for validation / personal politics / virtue signalling above the needs of teenage girls.

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LangCleg · 26/06/2018 18:25

the tide is turning

It is. It's going to be a rocky ride but we just have to hold firm and be as loudly supportive of the brave women and girls standing up as we can.

Starlighter · 26/06/2018 18:25

Good on her! I don’t agree with unisex toilets anywhere, but especially at that age.

LangCleg · 26/06/2018 18:24

Excellent! Brave girl. Supportive mum who went into bat for her. Brava!

And the comments are great.

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Ereshkigal · 26/06/2018 18:21

Well done to her!