Trans activist ‘bullies’ stop donations for schoolchildren

Oliver Burkeman:

"Meanwhile I’ve been pointed to @stonewalluk’s “response” to the document, which, while it doesn’t allege hate speech, includes literally no evidence for the claims it does make, about “dangerous” errors etc. Amazing."

Stonewall response referred to above:
www.stonewall.org.uk/our-work/blog/education-youth/creating-trans-inclusive-school-environment-response-transgender-trend

Oliver Burkeman (Guardian)

twitter.com/oliverburkeman/status/1004152461815410690

Unlike the Stonewall and Mermaids who are committed to nipping homosexuality in the bud by transitioning all gender non conforming children.
We see you.

article continues:
"Kibirige said increasing numbers of schools are “welcoming, safe places for young people who are trans, or who simply don’t conform to the gender stereotypes society expects of them”, and warned the guidance would create confusion.

“As more schools open themselves to learning about how to be trans inclusive, there is a hunger for information from teachers, school staff and others involved in education,” she said.

“That’s why the ‘schools resource pack’ produced by Transgender Trend this week is so dangerous. Masquerading as professional, ‘evidence-based’ advice for schools on how to ‘support trans and gender-nonconforming young people’, the pack in fact provides the reverse. It is a deeply damaging document, packed with factually inaccurate content.”

they “must have nothing to do with this deeply damaging publication”.

Or else what?

Article 'Schools urged to ignore ‘dangerous’ gender guidance'
re Transgender Trend's School pack:

(extract)
But the LGBT charity Stonewall, which advises hundreds of English schools, said the guidance is “packed with factually inaccurate content” and warned schools they “must have nothing to do with this deeply damaging publication”.

Hannah Kibirige, Stonewall’s director of education and youth, said the document not only “fails to reflect the real experiences of trans young people”, but “actively encourages schools to take steps that risk them falling foul of their legal duties and duty of care to pupils”.

“The idea that listening to young people and taking steps to make them feel included might encourage them to be trans is quite simply a myth,” she added.

schoolsweek.co.uk/schools-urged-to-ignore-dangerous-gender-guidance/

One of the cores of feminism has been that women, not men, decide what is best for women. So why isn't it equally the case that trans groups are best placed to decide what is best for trans children?

For the same reason doctors do not diagnose themselves and lawyers who represent themselves have a fool for a client.

Lemonjello
Yes when the true story is summarised it's plain to see how Jack became Jackie.

Lol @ Maxwell.

Because trans groups are lobby groups with their own agenda and often limited viewpoint/expertise.

This.

Andrew is brilliant at responding to TRAs. He majestically dealt with "Owl" when they tried to trash FPFW and his Times article about prisons.

One of the cores of feminism has been that women, not men, decide what is best for women. So why isn't it equally the case that trans groups are best placed to decide what is best for trans children?

Because women are adults and children are not.

Because trans groups are lobby groups with their own agenda and often limited viewpoint/expertise.

Because some of the trans groups are truly loopy. See Action for Trans Health which has a manifesto that includes wanting to free all trans prisoners and the freedom to do experimental medicine on each other.

Why the fuck do you think these people should be making decisions about and providing advice to children just because they happen to call themselves 'trans groups'?

Andrew Gillligan tweet:
twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1003346151779852288

OldCrone that clip is awful.

I guess my position is that if my child had attempted suicide 7 times I can’t confidently say that I would have done anything differently to Susie Green.

However, there are a whole host of things I would have done (and am doing) differently before anything ever gets to that stage.

From watching Susie Greens Ted talk, her child had been exposed to many damaging ideas before secondary school.

Bring a boy and liking girls toys is a big problem.

Dad gets very cross when you play with girls toys.

Sometimes your favourite things will be taken away from you because they are not appropriate for a boy to play with.

Playing with girls toys makes your mum and dad fight until they split up.

It means you are taken to the doctor because something is wrong with you.

It is possible to have an operation to become a real girl when you are a grown up (this was spoken about from age 6)

You are allowed to wear girls clothes and play with girls toys but only in private and where no-one knows you because it’s something that boys shouldn’t do.

You also change your name and use female pronouns when you play with girls toys.

It is possible to be a girl trapped in a boys body.

Dad stops being cross when he realises you are really a girl.

So good to know the girl doesn't know the technical terminology for what they did...

Jesus Christ

Nana and SG chortling about there "not being enough tissue"

And to justify it all, it's not good enough to be a bog-standard young woman; this one has to be a Beauty Queen.

Legal action? That's made me laugh, especially seeing most complaints would have been made anonymously. It would get laughed out in the first stages.

IMO trans adults can chose what happens to themselves, preferably with some degree of gatekeeping from medical professionals though so that they can make sure that the huge decision is right for them.

But 'transkids'? I actually think Lupron and such should be illegal for aesthetic reasons, which is basically the only reason to give them to 'transkids' Puberty is a shitty time for most kids, this is not unique to children who think they are transgender. I know I would have taken blockers with both hands and lied about anything to avoid puberty. I also hold the (apparently controversial) opinion that 'puberty blockers' could block vital brain development, and this is likely to be why near ALL kids put on them go onto cross sex hormones, as their brains are basically in limbo and not doing the developing necessary to come to terms with yourself.

That was actually the tweet that got me interviewed from the police. But I still hold the same opinion now.

Transkids don't exist. It is a fabrication of xxi century

lemonjello
I thought Susie Green must be full of doubt that what she did was right, but then I saw talking about what she did here:

Watch from 38:58, she actually laughs.

There's an interesting recent interview with Stephanie Davies Arai about Transgender Trend:

& some links to recent related discussions:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3258165-stephanie-davies-arai-transgender-trend

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3259595-TransgenderTrend-has-a-Crowdfunder

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3265524-Transgender-Trend-Crowdfunder-suspended

One of the cores of feminism has been that women, not men, decide what is best for women. So why isn't it equally the case that trans groups are best placed to decide what is best for trans children?

Seriously? Trans groups rather than ohhhh I don't know parents? Or healthcare professionals? Specialists working with children?

No. Just trans groups of random trans people.

FFS.