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Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...

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PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 16:47

... at least the men's pond is Hmm

Well done to the fabulous #ManFriday gents for exposing this rank hypocricy! Splendid work, chaps Flowers

Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
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Waddlelikeapenguin · 29/05/2018 09:16

The mankini & the swim cap!! You are gods (goddesses? It's neither Monday nor Friday Grin)

NotARegularPenguin · 29/05/2018 09:15

Well done gents. Lead story in the DM. Shame some of the actual men quoted have missed the point of the protest completely but good to see the police say “if this happened at the women’s pond we’d deal with that too”.

I’m desperate to know what the people in charge of the ponds have to say about this. Why did the lifeguards call the police if it’s pond policy to let self identifying peop,e use the pond of their choice? Are they going to continue to say that they allow men to use the women’s pond?

I’m just a bit disappointed that months and months ago I said we should do this and then it happened and I didn’t get an invite! Grin

YesItsADebate · 29/05/2018 09:15

Sarahconnor1 that’s one outfit that’s gone straight in the bin. Hideous!

meddie · 29/05/2018 09:12

Brilliant. I have said for a long time this wont be given any attention until it affects men. Need to follow this up with mass complaints to hampstead heath pond about how bigoted and transphobic they are for not allowing our fellow men into the pool. Its what the TRA's would do. They would complain vociferously abut this transphobia because thats how we got to this position in the first place.

LangCleg · 29/05/2018 09:11

YesItsADebate The mankini! Oh, my eyes!

Gileswithachainsaw · 29/05/2018 09:05

How do so many people making the comments miss the point...

LizzieSiddal · 29/05/2018 09:04

Yes it is the top story on the website.

Just WOW ManFriday, you’re awesome!

The article doesn’t have all the points (why didn’t they mention the fact women had complained about men being in the women only pond, in January?) BUT if you look at the top comments, they are all in support of your protest.

boatyardblues · 29/05/2018 09:04

There is smoke coming off the comments section of that DM article!

SwearyG · 29/05/2018 08:57

Yes @R0wantrees I still have it. PM me an email address and I’ll ping it across.

UpstartCrow · 29/05/2018 08:52

If you google 'Daily Mail', its the top story on their web page.

Archived link;
archive.is/ENlHT

flowersonthepiano · 29/05/2018 08:52

Well done! This highlights the idiocy of self-ID beautifully.

IndominusRex · 29/05/2018 08:49

Great work lads! To me the only fault with the DM article was that it didn't make clear that men are already exploiting self ID.

Sarahconnor1 · 29/05/2018 08:40

I took one for the team and had a peak at the DM. Most of the top rated comments get it, the ones that didn't were being corrected.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 29/05/2018 08:38

Well done! This points out the double-standards nicely.

Sarahconnor1 · 29/05/2018 08:35

Gentlemen I salute you, in particular Amy and the spectacular lime green mankini. I wish I was half as brave.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/05/2018 08:34

Bloody well done.
I love the way the angry men in the DM article are making our points for us so we don't have to.
You have done this so elegantly. Like a judo throw or something.

Mxyzptlk · 29/05/2018 08:33

Why is that (genuine question)?

Because men make the rules.

R0wantrees · 29/05/2018 08:29

*Outraged man: “Men aren’t allowed to go over to the women’s pond and get their cocks out, so why are you?!”

Protester: “Um, we don’t have cocks.”

Outraged man: “I just saw your mate’s VAGINA!”*

@SwearyG Do you have the SwimEngland selfi-id guidance (currently withdrawn) with the example of how staff should manage a woman feeling uncomfortable with male body parts in changing rooms?

Links:
manfridayuk.org

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3252624--ManFriday-background-Speech-by-Hannah-Clarke

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/04/09/interview-uk-women-self-identifying-men-challenge-proposed-changes-gra-part-manfriday/

IdaDown · 29/05/2018 08:22

Outraged man: “I just saw your mate’s VAGINA!”

Protester: “I don’t think you did, although you might have seen her vulva.”. YesItsA

Wouldn’t that be ‘mangina’. Grin

ReluctantCamper · 29/05/2018 08:22

oh well done chaps. fabulously exposing the hypocrisy of self ID as always.

I was trying to explain the David Lewis thing to my mum. She said, well maybe the labour party object because of his beard.

No Mum, there's that Alex person with a full beard who's redefining what it means to be a woman and is some sort or adviser to the labour party.

If David Lewis had put on eye shadow and adopted a breathy voice he'd have been fine.

That's all a woman is in trans ideology: make up and a skirt and flippy flappy hands.

But somehow no-one believes that performing masculinity makes you a man.

Why is that (genuine question)?

juneau · 29/05/2018 08:16

Well done women of the #ManFriday campaign!!! Lead story in the DM and the most hilarious, po-faced quotes from the men whose privacy was 'invaded'. So they don't like it either? Fucking brilliant! Now maybe this ridiculous policy will be debated properly.

One man shouted: 'They aren't men!' Another said: 'This is ludicrous. If I turned up at the female-only pond and claimed to be a woman I would never get let in. This is our space and that's how it should stay.'

Great job ladies Flowers

SwearyG · 29/05/2018 08:09

Yes I agree re one of the journalists, hackmum, maybe I read too much into it last night whilst in my cups. Let’s see what today brings. Twitter is broadly supportive, but of course I’ve been blocked by all of the TRA lot.

SwearyG · 29/05/2018 08:07

Sky were taping for a bigger piece that is going to go out in late June. There are a few recognisable GC feminists in it and a few from the TRA side. When we have a screening date I’ll let you all know.

I’m sure there will be coverage again in the papers, rehashing the DM story. If you see or hear anything please let us know.

RebelRogue · 29/05/2018 08:06

Oh God, the comments!!Confused

hackmum · 29/05/2018 08:06

SwearyG - I thought the Mail article was good on the whole and I am pretty sure that one of the two bylined journalists is sympathetic to your aims. Oh, and well done!