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Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

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IAmDavidLewis · 22/05/2018 23:17

Well, one of the weirdest days in my life concluded with me receiving a letter informing me of my immediate suspension from the Labour Party. They believe I may have breached the rules by subverting the intention of All Women Shortlists, Women’s Officers or minimum quotas for women. Unfortunately, this does mean that my political ambitions are on hold for a while. I shall of course be continuing to self-identify as a woman every Wednesday, as that is my gender identity...

I have to say a huge thanks to @namechangeah for all her help, guidance and, more importantly, proof-reading! I wouldn’t have gotten to this point without it. I’d also like to thank everyone for their support today. I hope this has helped a bit.

And the Telegraph called me an “activist”! Achievement unlocked Grin

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PurpleCrowbar · 23/05/2018 09:02

Thank you David!

So the official Labour position is currently: 'Anyone can self id as a woman unless we think they're taking the piss'? But they don't seem very keen to define exactly what 'taking the piss' looks like, other than making LM cross?

Erm OK then.

ohfourfoxache · 23/05/2018 09:02

David, thank you. You’ve shown everyone just how ridiculous this situation is.

I can’t wait to find out what their explanation is Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 23/05/2018 09:02

I want to spend my Wednesdays self-identifying as a man. What should I do?

Whatever you like, but maybe a wee bit more assertively and less considerately?

ErrolTheDragon · 23/05/2018 09:00

Hackmum - church school admissions do have a set of rules - if you follow them your kid gets a place regardless of your beliefs. You'll sometimes see threads on here complaining about the hypocrites taking the places of true believers. Like the LP, if you have criteria that can be abused, they will be.

The difference is the LP seems to be breaking its rule and not allowing David to self ID. I can't see what rationale they have other than that they're really applying a 'we know one when we see one' policy. Which makes a nonsense of self ID.

AlisonCHaynes · 23/05/2018 09:00

I want to spend my Wednesdays self-identifying as a man. What should I do?

redshoeblueshoe · 23/05/2018 08:59

Thanks Sarah I would say that's shocking, but its not surprising.

RainbowSnowflake · 23/05/2018 08:59

Thank you David - you truly are an awesome sister (today - I wont mis-gender you by saying you are our sister tomorrow, obvs).

I think it is shocking and transphobic that the Labour Party wont acknowledge your lady-hood - are they trying to deny your very existence?

dianebrewster · 23/05/2018 08:58

Well done David, thank you.

Mamagin · 23/05/2018 08:57

David, well done.
In solidarity on Wednesdays I will now self identify as a man.
Might be an idea if we all attempted to join the labour party as men? Well, those of us who normally self identify as women.
Papagin.

Sillydoggy · 23/05/2018 08:55

Well done David, Thanks for taking a stand.

lostlemon · 23/05/2018 08:51

Thank you for doing this David.
It would be great to see the Labour party put the confusion to bed once and for all, I'm looking forward to them telling us what is needed to be defined as a woman in order to put yourself forward. Maybe it involves makeup, skirts, liking nail varnish? Perhaps you need to be defining as a woman on a set number of days. Oh dear, it's such a mystery!

AlisonCHaynes · 23/05/2018 08:51

Ms Lewis, do you identity as female from 0.00 hours Wednesday, or does it start when you wake up. Additionally, if you only identify as female from the time you wake up, do you stop identifying as female at midnight?

Essentially, are you a lady for the full 24 hours?

OrchidInTheSun · 23/05/2018 08:49

Pratchet - they were reporting on the coverage in HuffPo. Martha Kearney sounded v amused. Was about 7.30 I think

SlowlyShrinking · 23/05/2018 08:44

Thanks David. Much appreciated Smile

RoxytheRexy · 23/05/2018 08:43

Another Thank you from me David. Thank you for taking a stand and proving how ridiculous this whole thing is.

Hope you’re enjoying your Womenly Wednesday

Sarahconnor1 · 23/05/2018 08:38

redshoeblueshoe. No sorry. Just went for a browse this morning and they are all suspended.

Then I noticed this thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3256163-Anyone-else-having-trouble-with-Twitter

ArcheryAnnie · 23/05/2018 08:34

Brava, sister!

Honestly, I learned my politics at the knee of old-school Labour women, mostly now dead. They are currently spinning in their graves at the absolute shitshow that the current Labour leadership is making of the entire Labour party.

redshoeblueshoe · 23/05/2018 08:34

Sarah do you have any details ?

hackmum · 23/05/2018 08:26

RadicalFern: " Also, surely the point of SELF-id is that nobody other than that person gets a say."

Exactly. Who'd have thought that Corbyn and his acolytes could be so dim as to not see this coming?

It reminds me very slightly of those C of E schools that prioritise admission to the children of practising Christians. The rules encourage non-Christians to lie by attending church, having their children christened and so on. This way non-Christians are indistinguishable from Christians - until one of them admits to what they're doing, and then they're presumably out on their ear. So a man hellbent on abusing self-ID can do it quite easily, whereas a man who admits that that is what he is doing is disciplined.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 23/05/2018 08:25

No no THIS is the policeman

MIdgebabe · 23/05/2018 08:24

Thank you

Melamin · 23/05/2018 08:23

I missed this last night!

Thank you for making a stand, my Wednesday Sister.

And what everyone else has said on this thread. It is so important, and I don't think the wider world has got it, and for some reason has no idea of the depths that people will go to subvert laws like this (without letting anyone know that is what they are doing).

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Pratchet · 23/05/2018 08:22

Councillors are key to this. They run the facilities like public pools and toilets etc.

Sarahconnor1 · 23/05/2018 08:22

Thanks David.

Now with a suspension, the Party will presumably need to define what a “self-identified woman” is, in order to show that I am not one.

They need to do this but seeing as though they haven't been able define women, I can't see it happening anytime soon.

Also it may have been mentioned elsewhere but the Twitter accounts for Venice Allan mayday4women Miranda Yardley and a few others have all been suspended.

Pratchet · 23/05/2018 08:22

What did they say on Radio 4 I missed it