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Slide show on "How to Deal with TERFs"

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OlennasWimple · 14/04/2018 20:20

Vimeo file embedded in this Twitter post: twitter.com/Gay4Plants/status/984358165075628032

Warning: do not watch if you are prone to high blood pressure, as it will send it rocketing

I'm not sure what's the worst bit of it TBH: the likening of TERFs to fascists, the fact that this was used for training at the NUS conference, the appalling spelling and grammar, or the downright lies it contains.

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thebewilderness · 18/04/2018 06:24

Male inclusive femanists subscribe to the 3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

AngryAttackKittens · 18/04/2018 06:24

"I worked at Mumsnet and women my mum's age and older refused to meekly defer to me and change both their policies and their office culture as a result of my informing them of how bigoted and behind the times they were. Some of them even pointed out that the generational difference might have something to do with the difference in how we viewed certain issues. This is an outrage! So now I've made it my goal to punish them for their failure to obey me."

Not sure if "Femmanist" is an attempt to include the term "femme" in the username that went wrong, a determination not to exclude men from the movement one is attempting to take over, or just a sign that we need to place more importance on teaching kids to spell while they're in primary school.

Ritzsaltedcrackers · 18/04/2018 06:12

Silly, daft wee girls. They will cringe at their behaviour one day when they’ve grown up and are living in the real world.

This was written just for them.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3108929-a-letter-to-the-woman-who-called-me-a-terf

ALittleBitOfButter · 18/04/2018 04:47

Wow why does she spell feminist with 'man' in it?

I hope the Guardian picks up on her spray. It would be a good way to spread a gender critical perspective on transing children.

ReappearingWoman · 18/04/2018 01:26

Another thread from supposedly a former employee at MNHQ

https://mobile.twitter.com/emma_healey/status/985527876878589952

Hmm
Noqonterfy · 18/04/2018 00:29

Oh nice, a ‘trans woman said so’ pass. A pass from a man to exclude women from feminism? Think I’ll ... well, pass on that, thanks

Lol. Yep.

Flomper · 18/04/2018 00:23

Proper lolling at that slideshow. My 9y old does better PowerPoint presentations, I mean they could have put some animations in! beside the point I know but it does make it (even) harder to take these whiney youngsters seriously.

DontCallMeBaby · 18/04/2018 00:14

Oh nice, a ‘trans woman said so’ pass. A pass from a man to exclude women from feminism? Think I’ll ... well, pass on that, thanks. Hmm

ALittleBitOfButter · 18/04/2018 00:14

"Truscum" must be racist because white feminism. Or something. Again we see gender dysphoria transsexuals, who are concerned self-id will harm them, being excluded within the TRA circles, while their experiences are used to publicise the "wide umbrella" of transvestites, cross dressers and other sexual fetishists, feminine men, "part time Pippa Bunceists", those who identify as women while still sporting a full beard etc.

Do YOU think that gender dysphoric people are "scum"? We don't. Why do you want to silence us?

Ereshkigal · 18/04/2018 00:08

Good to know this person is transexclusionary

Transactivists love pushing the TIFs out of women's groups and spaces.

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OlennasWimple · 17/04/2018 23:59

Oh hello, by the way, new members just coincidentally joined us from Twitter. Come to tell us to get fucked? (We're allowed to swear on here, we're grown ups)

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 17/04/2018 23:58

Good to know this person is transexclusionary

twitter.com/Gay4Plants/status/984403147799121920

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OlennasWimple · 17/04/2018 23:57

And we’ll be there for them. For me any less would be hypocritical as i once spouted the same mantra

I think we've all said things back in the day that we don't now believe (I used to spoil my ballot paper for SU elections because I didn't believe in women's officers, now I'm considering spoiling my ballot because of what is happening to women's officer appointments....)

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Nextloorejext · 17/04/2018 23:44

“I see them every day on tumblr. They come to a Feminist blog and explain and apologize when they realize they were duped.”

And we’ll be there for them. For me any less would be hypocritical as i once spouted the same mantra.

KatherinaMinola · 17/04/2018 23:41

Yeah, I can't get past this thought:

God, it's so badly written. How the hell did he get into Oxford?

thebewilderness · 17/04/2018 23:33

I see them every day on tumblr. They come to a Feminist blog and explain and apologize when they realize they were duped.

Nextloorejext · 17/04/2018 23:20

What i think is sad that many of these misguided, brainwashed young women, the allies - will ine day look bac in embarrassment, possibly even shame at how gullible and devoid of rational thought they were.

Noqonterfy · 17/04/2018 23:19

Just because lots of you believe trans women aren't women doesn't actually make it true, it just makes you all wrong together

Biology my dear, is the truth.

HelpTheTigers · 17/04/2018 23:18

No idea Eresh. Maybe we should ask MolesNet.

Ereshkigal · 17/04/2018 23:13

Why racist?

HelpTheTigers · 17/04/2018 23:12

Eresh, you missed out a lovely, gentle, respectful quote from Gay4Plants:

"Truscum are medicalising, essentialising, racist fuckwads"

I have never seen a post on MN that has been offensive about the transpeople who are known and insulted as 'truscum' by other trans. Why do these people get off on making poisonous comments like this? (Hope that The Mole doesn't delete my post. It would be my first ever deletion. Exciting times!!)

Nextloorejext · 17/04/2018 23:10

Be interesting to see what these young people think in 10 or 20 yrs time when they break out of their echo chambers, gain some life experience and start deploying more critical thinking

Fairenuff · 17/04/2018 23:00

They're terrible for digging up the terf.

HelpTheTigers · 17/04/2018 22:58

Moles? Are these little furry animals who trot along under the lawn terf?

LangCleg · 17/04/2018 22:58

I just caught a glimpse of Philomea Cunk asking if pigs became cows as part of the evolution process.

I confess the inspiration for that comment!