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Mermaids “Teaching” in Schools

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TestyAndTERFy · 03/02/2018 21:58

I read something somewhere about the pro-trans “support” charity doing some outreach work in schools. I read on their website that they have funding and are looking for 25 schools. I also read that they’ve partnered with the police, CAHMs, and some other public sector groups to deliver training, which includes their so-called “gender spectrum” slide (the one with barbie on the left, GI Joe on the right and everyone else somewhere in between). I had a knee-jerk reaction to reading that that are going into primary schools and delivering this sort of information and also that some schools are being encouraged to hide the identify-preferences of children from their parents in cases where the parents are not accepting/encouraging. Rather than just going off the deep end I was wondering whether anyone has any first-hand experience or knowledge relating to this. TAI.

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UpstartCrow · 24/02/2018 00:35

qumquat Can you 'vaccinate' her with biology and common sense? I grew up on a farm breeding livestock and would have known this is rubbish at a very early age.

Where are black women on this chart?
Mermaids Gender Spectrum Rainbow;
twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/955407448575283200

thebewilderness · 24/02/2018 00:31

Thank you shedalight. Done.

qumquat · 24/02/2018 00:16

Linking to the question a PP posed earlier. My DD starts school in September. My absolute nightmare is her coming home telling me she has had a session from Mermaids or equivalent. I doubt schools would have to give parents notice of a session so there would be no way of withdrawing her in advance (I understand you can withdraw children from sex ed but this would likely be billed as anti-bullying or similar). But I'm scared if I wrote a letter in advance to the school I would be forever branded a bigot and that could impact on my daughter as well.

shedalight · 23/02/2018 23:31

If anyone has time you could write to the DfE and ask whether the promotion of eugenics / unethical medical experimentation on children advocated by transgender organisations is now DfE policy?
Ask what due diligence the DfE carried out when funding transgender political pressure groups to work in schools.
Is it DfE policy that established safeguarding principles should not apply to transgender children? (they state that adults in schools must maintain confidentiality if children disclose gender confusion issues)
Ask whether the DfE support these groups using suicide statistics in defiance of the Samaritan's guidelines?
Ask whether it is DfE policy that the Equality Act should no longer apply to girls in terms of rights to privacy, dignity and safety?

etc etc.....
This page takes you to the DfE's complaints page:

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-education/about/complaints-procedure#how-to-make-a-complaint-about-the-department-for-education

nicentoasty · 23/02/2018 22:59

The government has given £3 million to Stonewall et al to roll out mass 'anti-transphobia' training to teachers and pupils across 'at least 1,200 schools' by March next year - See page 43 of this (or page 46 if you're going off the numbering on the pdf file)

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/664855/Transforming_children_and_young_people_s_mental_health_provision.pdf

Although Mermaids aren't directly named in that document but they are part of the LGBT Consortium's Alliance and are involved in this regressive, sexist, homophobic bollocks work:

www.lgbtconsortium.org.uk/tackling-hbt-bullying

shedalight · 23/02/2018 19:41

We need to keep saying it - they're a political pressure group and they're NOT allowed access to children without a balanced alternative being provided to their propaganda.
Point this out to schools - again and again..

thebewilderness · 23/02/2018 19:29

They are a partially government sponsored homophobic organization committed to trangendering away any risk of homosexuality in children. Mermaids is in trouble with the courts but the schools keep on permitting them to recruit children into transgenderism.
"The latest accounts for Mermaids UK, published last week, (October 2017) reveal it has been granted £35,000 by the Department for Education (DfE) and a total of £138,000 by the national lottery’s Awards for All fund and the BBC’s Children in Need appeal."

Redcliff · 23/02/2018 19:08

But chanties can campaign - I've worked for two charities and both had a strong campaign focus.

shedalight · 23/02/2018 19:01

whoputthecatout
It's because nobody ever checks what they're doing. They've been given a free pass into schools because we all reckoned they were looking at bullying and helping this tiny group of children.
But of course they're not. They are pursuing their political aims - and gas lighting a whole generation. I do suggest that anyone who encounters them in a school takes copies and full details. When this generation who are currently taking the drugs and being supported by pressure groups (rather than those with expertise in child and adolescent development) reaches adulthood and realises the impact these drugs have had on their fertility and bodies, they will want to sue. So all details, records, screenshots etc will be very helpful for future class actions.

whoputthecatout · 23/02/2018 18:48

i would have thought that Mermaids, as a charity, is sailing pretty close to the wind when it comes to Charity Commission rules on campaigning. But the CC is pretty toothless and pretty useless in asking the right questions to notice anyway.

shedalight · 23/02/2018 17:42

OP:
You need to argue that Mermaids and other groups are a political political pressure group, that is a group that tries to influence changes in public policy in the interest of their particular cause. As soon as they attempt to change the language used in a school, to influence school policy about sex segregated spaces and sport, rewrite scientific facts, persuade schools to prioritise the interests of their particular interest group, then they are acting as a political pressure group. A school allowing them unfettered access to children would be in breach of legislation in the 1996 Education Act and other guidance:

Schools are constrained by the duty to comply with Sections 406 and 407 of the Education Act 1996 which forbids ‘the promotion of partisan political views…’ The requirement found in the Prevent Duty and 'teaching controversial issues for schools' also places a duty to “secure that where political issues are brought to the attention of pupils… they are offered a balanced presentation of opposing views

If these organisations just focused on the welfare / bullying issues, that would be totally legitimate. But they never do. They attempt a wholesale change in school systems, beliefs and practices. Parents need to complain. Children must always be offered an alternative political view or political pressure groups can't access them. It's the law!

SkyeTheGameNerd · 23/02/2018 17:34

It depends,
Some schools are strict and won't budge and some will require loads of parents coming together, definitely worth a try though!
I sort of prefered the original idea they had, we used to have loads of youth groups that would educate a gender queer individual, took my brother when he started questioning himself as it gave him someone who would listen and guide him, but putting it in schools especially early will only confuse children/youth and make them think they should be questioning it or something wrong. Just stick with providing it to those who want it x

SuburbanRhonda · 23/02/2018 17:12

Surely all it should take is one determined set of parents to sue the shit out their school for allowing this nonsense?

It may not even take a set of parents.

Five years ago DS’s school invited the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children in to speak to the Yr10s about abortion.

I arranged a meeting with the head and the head of religious studies and explained to them how toxic this organisation is. They withdraw the invitation and they never came.

MrGHardy · 23/02/2018 17:06

Surely all it should take is one determined set of parents to sue the shit out their school for allowing this nonsense?

MrsOvarall · 23/02/2018 16:18

That's chilling, Skye.

Is it possible for parents to forbid a school in advance from allowing Mermaids or its materials contact with their child? Eg with a letter to the head when they start at the school? I would never want Mermaids anywhere near a happily gender non conforming child.

SkyeTheGameNerd · 23/02/2018 15:57

Mermaids recently went to my sisters school for a sort of lecture, i believe it sort of happened and our mum wasn't told, will have to ask my sister though whether the school planned to or whether nobody was told until the day x

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 08:44

Worth being reminded that the curriculum for sex Ed is going to be over hauled after 20 years.

Might be worth filling in the survey

Please help shape sex ed in England. Lets stop the rot.www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3151439-Please-help-shape-sex-ed-in-England-Lets-stop-the-rot

TestyAndTERFy · 04/02/2018 08:38

Oh, thanks for that. I missed the post somehow so will bob over there for a read.

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rowdywoman1 · 04/02/2018 08:19

It doesn't surprise me OP. Their propaganda machine is well funded. There are some useful points in this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3154752-Trans-extremism-schools