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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Please help shape sex ed in England. Lets stop the rot.

23 replies

Trueheart1 · 27/01/2018 13:54

Dear all, the government is planning a major overhaul of Sex and Relationship teaching in England. They have opened a consultation and would like to hear from people (especially people who have been involved in education).

Please let your views be known, I have just responded with my views that included the need to teach about the damage done by porn, the damaging and sexist, Transgender agenda and the normalisation of damaging sex acts in the name of being inclusive. I also registered my irritation at groups such as Mermaids having access to students.

These are my personal bugbears but the more of us who speak the better idea of views they will have.
This is the link consult.education.gov.uk/life-skills/pshe-rse-call-for-evidence/

Please consider filling it in. It closes on the 12th of Feburary.

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Stopmakingsense · 27/01/2018 15:42

Will do. Thanks for highlighting it

bambambini · 27/01/2018 16:35

Well if the likes of Labour (and other parties) truly believe that transwomen are women and transmen are men - and demands that society accepts and agrees with that - then i assume they will be changing everything in education so that literature and the curriculum reflects that. Same with laws, the health service, prison service, sporting rules and regulations. Why wouldn’t they?

Trueheart1 · 27/01/2018 17:34

bamba this is why it is important to fill this in. Also Labour are not in power so they will not be shaping this curriculum change.

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Ekphrasis · 27/01/2018 20:58

Thank you, will bump.

Whatnextxx · 27/01/2018 21:44

Bumping again

notafish · 28/01/2018 09:34

I fear that there will be delays to establishing the new SRE curriculum because of the transgender lobby. Church groups have opposed compulsory teaching of same sex relationships in SRE and held up progress in this area.

Now, with transgender added to the debating table there will be 3 groups to appease. The transactivists who will seize the opportunity to shoehorn in their false facts about biology and gender, the church leaders who might still oppose any teaching about same sex relationships and who will be grappling with the addition of transgender, and then there will be people like me, who have always been pro LGB teaching but don't think the teaching of transgenderism belongs in the SRE curriculum.

Please do fill out the survey and have your say.

Ekphrasis · 28/01/2018 11:22

Sadly I fear this is going to get lost in the labour furore - this is so important!

Trueheart1 · 28/01/2018 11:26

Ekphrasis, I have also shared this on Twitter. What else can we do to get the word out? Shall I post it on AIBU?

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Ekphrasis · 28/01/2018 13:17

I think that would be good; I think pushing the idea of consent, healthy relationships and impact of porn on expectations within sexual relationships would be good; stereotypes in general as well as linked to homosexuality would be useful, keeping the trans to a minimum as some are potentially instantly switched off if that's a main focus.

It hasn't been reviewed for 20 years has it?

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 08:43

Bumping

Moonflower12 · 04/02/2018 08:52

What are 'Mermaids'?

Just been down a wormhole trying to google it. Do not google 'mermaids sex education'!

CapnHaddock · 04/02/2018 08:58

Mermaids are a lobby group set up by a woman who took her teenage son to Thailand for sex change surgery. They advocate giving puberty blockers to children

HerRoyalFattyness · 04/02/2018 09:15

Thanks for highlighting this. I've completed it.

bambambini · 04/02/2018 09:33

She took her 15 yr old son and booked the operation for his 16th birthday - as young as was legally possible- though I think Thailand has since upped the minimum age to 18.

Saying that, every case is different - I’ve no idea how desperate their situation was or what her son might have been threatening.

Moonflower12 · 04/02/2018 09:44

Thank you. Lobby groups should not have unlimited access to our children.

Moonflower12 · 04/02/2018 09:45

I've completed the survey.

Quickchange1 · 04/02/2018 09:51

I've completed and shared the survey on FB. I teach in Secondary and we have a reasonably good PSHE curriculum. We did recently have some transsexuals in to talk to the students about their journey. Very genuine and very different from the TRA the difference was n it acknowledged, self ID not mentioned. More students are identifying as trans than ever before.

Issues regarding porn are looked at well in our school but consent brushed over too quickly.

NameChanger22 · 04/02/2018 09:56

I would like it pointing out that cervical smears are not how you prevent cancer, they are how you find it.

Nobody ever tells you that sex causes ovarian cancer, I wonder why that is? If you don't have sex you have 0 chance of getting it. Sex is risky, especially for women.

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 10:06

Is that unprotected sex name?

I was (or my teachers were) suitably scared by the hiv epidemic to advocate always using condoms in my early sex days but my sex Ed was pre internet etc.

Elendon · 04/02/2018 11:47

It's a long survey. Make sure you have the time to complete. You can save and respond later.

Date to end is 12th Feb.

OnTheList · 04/02/2018 15:55

I specifically mentioned mermaids being nothing but a pressure group. I said consent was important to be taught, obviously safe sex and finally LGB issues (many of my friends were gay and felt failed by sex ed). But actually did say that T is homophobic and that rubbish such as 'if you do not follow sex stereotypes you are the opposite sex' is clearly harmful to impressionable minds. I said I would want to be sent detailed lesson plans..so that I know whether I will allow my children to take part as if there is any of the mermaids type nonsense they will be withdrawn no matter how important the rest of the lesson is.

whoputthecatout · 04/02/2018 18:54

Nobody ever tells you that sex causes ovarian cancer, I wonder why that is? If you don't have sex you have 0 chance of getting it.

Did you mean to say that NameChanger?

Melamin · 04/02/2018 19:09

She took her 15 yr old son and booked the operation for his 16th birthday - as young as was legally possible- though I think Thailand has since upped the minimum age to 18 and 21 without parental consent. (not that that would make any difference in this case Hmm )

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