Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

That is fantastic news.

Everyone knew Nic was right. The fact they dragged her over the coals with their aggressive tactics speaks volumes for the gender critical argument.

Independent article with the inappropriate statistics that is much cited upthread (and corrected by other posters) has now been the cause of an apology, acknowledgment of defamation, and out of court settlement to FPFW:

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1053033005021847553

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398870-Independent-newspaper-makes-out-of-court-settlement-to-Fair-Play-For-Women

fetish in all areas of pubic life just made me laugh, Trousered!

I think the psychiatric and judicial experts have long known about the pathology.

It is bizarre that we are expected not to mention it here. Well it's not bizzare given that the entire objective of the Stonewall driven movement is the sanitisation of fetish in all areas of pubic life, schools, work, leisure, everywhere.

At what point are we allowed to admit that there's a fairly consistent pattern of pathology here among a certain section of the TRA movement?

I agree kitten. Mental health issues.

But deciding that men with gender dysphoria will lead to a complete dismantling of sex categories and the pretence that the penis is a female organ, is a mental disorder.

Do we know what name they were using last time?

There's something unsettling about that level of obsession. When a person is banned multiple times and comes back, lies, openly admits that they want women who disagree with them imprisoned, and then lies about the rape of a child, at a certain point you're pretty clearly in personality disorder territory.

I know it’s wrong to gloat but it’s so satisfying that I didn’t get a single deletion while F4 got at least 4 and then banned.

We have reason and logic.

I agree completely with people like Barracker that not being able to use the correct pronouns skews your perception. But, given the constraints, I think it's entirely possible to to say exactly what you need to say. It takes longer, but it's doable.

And yes the banning 'giveaway'. It's incredibly useful. I don't want HQ to change it though, which is why I like to keep it on the qt.

Unitas 😂 I meant uboats

I know it’s wrong to gloat but it’s so satisfying that I didn’t get a single deletion while F4 got at least 4 and then banned.

We have reason and logic.

They have Nazi’s, Unitas, imprisonment, insults, marooning on an island, and despicable lies about their non existent child.

This thread shows the contrasts very nicely.

Ah. I didn't know that. I just thought that they stopped posting.

Thanks for your analysis lang. It's always absolutely invaluable.

Twitter extremist transactivism is just one big Duluth wheel if you ask me.

Oh. And there was me thinking that you had some special powers or connections with MNHQ .

Their profile disappears.

I guessed they were the same person but I wasn't shocked. How do you know they are banned? (?)

Yes, they are both banned. Lending credence to sock puppetry.

Thanks for your analysis lang. It's always absolutely invaluable.

If he’s a pbp that explains why he’s not been back either. No doubt banned again!

There are no depths to which they won't sink, are there?

It's just the ten-a-penny approach of the domestic abuser, Datun. Everything straight from the playbook: wild accusations, rapid change of backstory, unstable, vicious narc rage spin out.

It's the same dynamic applied to a group of women on the internet as applied to a single woman in a home.

Dull and predictable but also highly dangerous.

Ah ok.

Same posting style, Datun. Same type of username: there is no coincidence that Miranda Yardley is well-liked on the FWR board. Look at the new username. Also the old username - 'Feminist', when the poster was nothing of that ilk.

Apparently m1randa1 is a previously banned poster

Said poster is F4.

How do you know that DisrespectfulAdultFemale? I mean we were all pretty sceptical of 4s narrative. But to have it confirmed is making me feel a bit ill.

There are no depths to which they won't sink, are there?

And after all the boat talk, I can now reveal - I identify as Boaty McBoatface, and no one can say any different!

Apparently m1randa1 is a previously banned poster

Said poster is F4.

Well how, how interesting. And appalling. To make up a story about the rape of a child as a cheap way of scoring points is so disgusting I actually can’t even.

Every day the deptavity shows itself a little more.

Feminist4 - Luddite attitude

I know the thread has moved on, but I just want to make a comment about this. Describing someone as a Luddite does not make the point that is intended. I know it's commonplace to view the Luddites as fuddy-duddies who didn't want to get with the times, but actually, they weren't against modern technology, they were against the effects it had on working class people. They didn't want to lose their jobs, or have one but with poor pay and horrendous working conditions. In effect, they were fighting for the rights of working class people to have decent pay and labour rights. So by describing people as Luddites you are actually criticising them for standing up for themselves against exploitation and the removal of their rights.