Feminist Pub XVIII, in which the Bluestocking greets the first signs of spring with a glass of something soothing

Oh, excellent! Always liked Jon Ronson, and it's always a bugger when people you like turn out to be massive twats, nice to see the opposite for once!

Not got much to do with anything else, but it is so nice to hear a man beginning to get it. Just to remind us, namalt! This is from Jon Ronson's webchat if you didn't see it.

" I think it’s no coincidence that most of the people in my book are women. Women tend to be shamed much worse than men. And it’s a much more violent form of shaming. Rape threats and death threats. Men tend to just get “I’m going to get you fired” threats. I can only speculate as to why there’s so much misogyny out there. Maybe it’s because feminism is doing well and some men feel threatened?"

kickass. Do I dare ask?

I'm trying to sift my thoughts as to why I don't watch Poldark. I think ultimately it's because of suspicion of greasy hair. > I'm a bit at how shallow that it.

In my language we just address a mixed group as, well "everyone". (Literal translation: big family, usage: everyone.) I can't bring myself to say "guys" or "chaps". I sometimes say "people" - is that bad? But mostly I say "everybody".

Gah! Another sleepless night and just argh! Because of teenage kids.

Not sure how I feel about Guys. I'd rather a group of women be addressed as 'guys' than 'girls' or 'ladies'. It is more difficult when addressing a mixed group.

I've just been catching up on Poldark (PHWOAR etc etc) and feeling a bit old because I've realised that Demelza is the woman (almost wrote girl!) who played Jas in Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging.

Yes it's about that thread. Should have made that clear - sorry dr!

dr - there's a thread all about 'guys' at the moment. Yes, it's become an ungendered word in common US usage(and perhaps UK youth-speak).

Obama calls them "guys" in that video!

But all children tend to be called "guys" when spoken about collectively in the US, it doesn't seem to be a gendered word any more.

Aww, does he? I just read the article (at work) and wanted a Lego page turner!'

yonic Obama calls them "guys" in that video!

Am slightly at the make-up thread. Don't know why I should be.

Right. Time to get off my bottom and do something. I'm seeing my piano teacher in a couple of days and I haven't practised anything new ...

stormy

Eh, it is what it is. At least I don't have to worry about pensions!

Stormy - Sorry to hear that.

Can I come back in the pub please? I've been away a while. I kind of lost the thread of the conversation and then it dropped off TIO and then...

Anyway, if I'm allowed I'm back for a few days before the end of term.

It was a while back, but my Mummies study astrophysics if I'm meant to be going Chatter Chatter. Women next to me normally snigger. In baby groups they often "say sit back down" or "say don't do that".

'How I live my life is my own business.'
That's probably about all that needs saying on the 'baby cutoff issue' really.

I'm really sorry to hear that, stormy. Thanks for replying, though.

Because of the genetic lottery, Jeanne - if I had a kid at forty five, I'd probably be able to walk it to school on the first day of primary, but there's a fifty fifty chance I'd be demented and wheelchair-bound by the start of secondary. Having spent my entire adult life watching my mother disintegrating, there's no way I'm risking putting a child through that.

BlackRide, I'll be damned if I know! Something about getting to regret it later, and also depriving my parents of grandchildren. I try to not pay attention.

On other news, while I commend Mo'Ne Davis for being a class act, I don't think she should be so gracious to this guy. Calling a 13 year old a slut? Really?

www.foxnews.com/sports/2015/03/23/diamond-class-little-league-star-goes-to-bat-for-her-twitter-tormentor/

Oh, it's the cutoff at the other end...

Well, personally I don't intend to have any more kids - but that's nothing to do with age, and everything to do with freedom!

I can't really see why you need a cut-off. If we spent all our time looking at risk factors and what-ifs then we'd never do anything. Anyone can get sick, anyone can have an accident, babies can have issues whatever the age of the mother (or father). I know plenty of women in their late 40s with babies, I know plenty of grandparents who take major roles in child-rearing, it seems to me that a cut-off is just putting more pressure on people for no decent reason.

Thanks.

Here it is...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2337442-What-do-you-consider-is-a-realistic-age-for-having-a-last-baby?

I can't find the thread. What was your reasoning (if you don't mind me asking), stormy?