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Feminist Pub XVIII, in which the Bluestocking greets the first signs of spring with a glass of something soothing

994 replies

PuffinsAreFictitious · 16/03/2015 23:08

Just starting this one as the last is nearly full

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StillLostAtTheStation · 25/03/2015 22:15

Glasses and contacts

No. I wear contact lenses for distance but decrepitude now means I have to wear reading glasses for reading but it's not the same as belt and braces.

EBearhug · 25/03/2015 22:12

Of course women can wear braces. Does no one remember the '80s? (Am possibly showing my age here.)

You can either wear braces - slightly to the side or right over the top. I think the former was more usual, for practical reasons.

YonicScrewdriver · 25/03/2015 22:08

I'm so classy Grin

Hovis2001 · 25/03/2015 22:06

Yes, you did. You also made jokes about AnyFucker's baubles. Grin

YonicScrewdriver · 25/03/2015 21:50

Hood and umbrella/gloves and mittens both sound like something I could say in an office! I'm happy if it's unisex rather than explicitly female. Thanks everyone Grin

I don't mind men being called feminists but I can see the argument for 'ally'

ChopperGordino · 25/03/2015 21:47

Doesn't surprise me at all. I would be interested to see what the figures are for the UK. Also broken down for POC. I work with senior nurses and compared to the intake at student and regular staff level, men and white people are heavily over-represented at senior level.

SoMuchForSubtlety · 25/03/2015 21:41

Just to cheer you all up - this

Sigh.

ChopperGordino · 25/03/2015 21:36

Oh blimey that happens all the time. except i usually think what a twat I sounded!

Hovis2001 · 25/03/2015 21:33

Ooh, thanks for the link - that's great! I knew there must have been a thread (or ten) about it on here at some point. I'll be really embarassed if I find I've posted on one of them and forgotten about it.

Hovis2001 · 25/03/2015 21:32

Haha, that's ok! Hovels has a good ring to it. Grin

Yes, my DH goes with ally too. Several RL feminist friends seem to find this almost distressing, though.

ChopperGordino · 25/03/2015 21:30

There are some good posts on this recent thread on the topic www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2251312-Can-men-be-feminists

I'm not posting that to say that you shouldn't talk about this on this thread, just that there are some thought-provoking posts on that and other threads on the topic too which might be worth reading

ChopperGordino · 25/03/2015 21:21

Hovis sorry!

ChopperGordino · 25/03/2015 21:21

Tbh hovels I flip between yes and no on men calling themselves feminists. But it's not really up to me. Dp describes himself as an ally.

Hovis2001 · 25/03/2015 21:14

Glasses and contacts? Gloves and mittens? Not explicitly female, though. R.e. braces, I think they tend to be pushed out to the side of the boobs if that makes sense, but I think that would a) reduce their functionality and b) make them fairly uncomfortable.

Scarf and pashmina?!

Jeanne's thread on how you identify as a feminist got me thinking about something that I've never been able to satisfactorily answer for myself - can/should men identify as feminists? When I raise this question in RL people tend to get a bit lemon-faced and obviously there's the argument for an open and welcoming movement. But on the other hand I see all of the famous male actors in "this is what a feminist looks like" t-shirt and I wonder if the implication is that feminism can only be acceptable IF approved by men. Confused Any thoughts?

If this isn't an appropriate discussion for the pub please say and I will go start a thread instead of mumbling about it over the top of my beer! Smile

UptoapointLordCopper · 25/03/2015 21:01

I see. Thank you!

OublietteBravo · 25/03/2015 20:56

I know Yonic - I don't understand why anyone goes anywhere near AIBU. Start a thread there and you are cannon fodder.

YonicScrewdriver · 25/03/2015 20:48

I agree oubliette, there are lots of grumpier places on MN than we manage here!

YonicScrewdriver · 25/03/2015 20:47

So in the commercial world, I might get an opinion from an accountant and a lawyer to be "belt and braces" sure that I was not going to get in trouble.

The contraceptive ones are good as they have a flavour of the protection! Suspenders and hold ups I like too. I kinda need a non sexually related thing for work though!!

OublietteBravo · 25/03/2015 20:47

Why does FWR or whatever it is called these days have such a negative perception on MN?

I had a really bad day, I'm stressed and DH is out. A bit of time here and I'm feeling much more cheerful.

Loving Jeanne's thread on identifying as a feminist and the celery vs radish argument

You lot are awesomeSmile

YonicScrewdriver · 25/03/2015 20:45

LordC, a belt holds up trousers, but so do braces, if you wear both then you are doubly protected from your trousers falling down.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 25/03/2015 20:44

Hood and umbrella Grin

UptoapointLordCopper · 25/03/2015 20:44

Are we talking fancy dress? Confused

YonicScrewdriver · 25/03/2015 20:43

I like coil and condom!
(I did think about pill and diaphragm)

Women in braces? Err, where do their breasts sit?

ErrolTheDragon · 25/03/2015 20:12

Belt and safety pin. Grin

TheBlackRider · 25/03/2015 20:10

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