Feminist Pub XVIII, in which the Bluestocking greets the first signs of spring with a glass of something soothing

Oh, yes, sorry. It's a link to someone discussing and quoting the very offensive piece. But it isn't nice anyway.

vamp -

BR, the first link describes the offensive article, it isn't the article.

Oubelite - I started my MN lurking career on Aibu and only ever heard awful things about the Fem boards.

Happy to say it appears to be BS.

Unless of course you lot are being incredibly rude and hostile and mean but in such a witty and intelligent way that I haven't noticed

It is.

Though, I did think yesterday it sounded as if they were hinting that the pilot must have crashed the plane, and while it is utterly horrible, I'd rather we know what's happened. I couldn't help thinking how awful you would feel if you were part of that plane's ground crew, or an engineer, or a pilot on the same sort of plane - you'd be constantly wondering if something you were doing was going to kill more people. So, horrible as it is, I would rather know.

There is a beyond-depressing account of how some deeply sick MRAs are already interpreting it, though. wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/03/26/vox-day-could-andreas-lubitzs-murdersuicide-by-plane-been-prevented-if-the-sluts-of-the-world-were-a-little-more-equitable-in-their-distribution-of-blowjobs/?fb_action_ids=10206302695317278&fb_action_types=news.publishes&fb_ref=pub-standard

Been listening to far too much news today.

Fucking male violence. Every fucking-where. Pilots crashing planes. TV presenters hitting people because they can't produce a steak.

I find it so, so depressing.

I may have had a pair of braces in the 1980s. They haven't exactly been in style for men since then either so I don't have a problem with the phrase, it is an equal opportunities outdated fashion phrase.

I made a pair of trousers which were baggy at top and then pleated in at the bottom, with braces. The waist was elastic, with a little frill above the elastic.

I loved those trousers - wore them so much. I used to call them my clown trousers, but they were very classy! (honest)

Braces outside the boobs, and not uncomfortable at all.

Wore them when pregnant because I couldn't find any maternity jeans that stayed up, so just wore my normal jeans unbuttoned with a belly band and braces.

I seem to remember Cher wearing braces in some 80s video, and she wore them backwards. I didn't think I'd get away with that though.

I wear a 2-piece (but not bikini) swimming costume for swimming. But I'm noticing that it flaps at my stomach level when I kick off. Hmm. But I'm not wearing a 1-piece again. What to do?

Probably nothing. Hey ho.

I sometimes think I should get a bikini - it might work better under a wetsuit than a one-piece.

I can't wear a bikini either. Celtic heritage again. When you can get sunburn sitting in a darkened room in winter, the less skin on display the better.

Yes, I think the weather in the UK is the greatest deterrent to bikini-wearing.

I cannot wear a bikini.

I never go anywhere warm enough.

There was also one about who can wear a bikini, I think.

I've never managed to figure out what type I am! But then I may perhaps have not devoted my full and not inconsiderable intellectual prowess to it.

*coughing

Sorry to hear about the couvhing, Lord Copper!

That's a great blog post. I remember a cartoon doing the rounds a while ago with faces, arms, and legs drawn onto apples, and pears etc with the caption "I am not a piece of fruit". Summed it up for me!

The thread about men calling themselves feminist isn't dispiriting - mostly it contains a lot of really thoughtful discussions. I spent most of my time reading it thinking how smart and articulate all the posters on FWR are! It went a bit strange around the page 6 mark though.

Good morning. I spent the night coughing.

A blog about wearing clothes.

Exactly like that, Yonic. I loved those high-waisted trousers which were baggy round the hips, but tapered down the leg and the hems were turned up. Didn't have braces myself, but my best friend did have, with some funky pattern on.

And Grandad shirts. They were about the same time (when I was about 13).

I don't care if the '80s were the decade which fashion forgot. I had clothes I wore to pieces.

Vampyre, The White Queen and The Red Queen are in the Kindle sale so I'm going to try them!

Sleep well LordC!

Marvellous, Still, thanks for that.

Any of the other light hearted contributions that you did like?

I'm sitting on the fence too re: men as feminists, but will go and read that thread surreptitiously tomorrow while being bored to death in a meeting. I hope it's not dispiriting. I find the make-up thread a bit dispiriting.

I love AF's name. Always put a spring in my steps for some reason. Very spirited.

Have I overused "spirit"?

Would be interesting to know about salaries in childcare too. Or would it?

I'm rambling. Best go to bed. I'm reading Stardust.

Like this, Ebear??

lovebananarama.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/poster-brace-yourself.html