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what draws you to this part of MN, particularly if you are a man? and if you dont support feminism?

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bejeezusWC · 19/06/2012 11:35

just what the title says really....

I have read a few contributors, and I really want to point to them and ask 'what are YOU doing here?' Grin but its not on is it

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OlympicMarathonNCer · 19/06/2012 18:51

:o

I used to actively campaign on anti dv issues, women's rights etc.

I am recovering from a breakdown due to abuse at different stages of my life.

I have already started actively campaigning again but I am really struggling with connecting back with feminism.

I think atm I am one of those relying on feminism and campaigning but I'm just a bit lost.

I've read through a lot of posts and have some good pointers of what's going on and what to read. I'm just not up to debating.

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bejeezusWC · 19/06/2012 18:43

What's all this about cocks raincoat?

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 18:42

Olympics - Do you want to know more, thinking it through or want to put feminism into action? Or just confused?

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bejeezusWC · 19/06/2012 18:41

The way I see it is, we heat the non-feminist and the male POV all day everyday. It's not important, on a feminist forum to be reminded of them

I wouldn't go on a petrol head forum and berate them all for being, um, petrol heads; tell them they should have more regard for the environment for ecample

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yellowraincoat · 19/06/2012 18:22

Yes Hully. They said I liked kicking them. AND THEY WERE RIGHT.

OlympicMarathonNCer · 19/06/2012 18:20

I'm a woman, looking for answers s'pose. I agree with feminism and the political change it's brought but I have no idea where it applies to me or me to it.

I also have mh problems so confusion is normal :o

Hullygully · 19/06/2012 18:12

Did someone really actually truly tell you how you feel about cocks, yellow?

yellowraincoat · 19/06/2012 18:10

Yay, you're a feminist, Maryvivienne!

Maryvivienne · 19/06/2012 17:56

I saw this on the active chat. I'm not a man and don't consider myself a feminist. How do people actually define feminist. I looked it up in my dictionary it says feminism - the movement to win political, ecomonic and social equality for women. Well I'm certainly in favour of that.

Beachcomber · 19/06/2012 17:51

I think this might be one of them Juggling. There were a whole series of chat threads but they probably don't make terribly interesting reading as they were just people chatting about every day stuff, some of it a bit related to feminism some not.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/1258668-ask-what-you-think-are-silly-Qs-here-and-forkful-will-try-to-answer-them-in-a-polite-helpful-way-by-directing-you-to-the-resources-she-found-useful-and-try-to-use-persuasive-arguments-and

yellowraincoat · 19/06/2012 17:45

I never said you said anything about the beauty standard, did I?

You told me how I feel about cocks. How ALL women feel about cocks.

You're silencing me by saying I twist stuff.

See, I can say things too.

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 19/06/2012 17:44

Anyone do me a friendly link to Feminism 101 and feminism chat thread ?
They both sound good

thechairmanmeow · 19/06/2012 17:43

i havent told anyone how they are feeling, you have no right acusing me of things i havnt done.
i have certainly never said men have to live up to the beauty standard that women do, actually, i've never even seen that opinion voiced on these threads, but then you clearly have the capability of twisting stuff around so it menas something else

and yes i would keep on arguing but i have to go make dinner.

Beachcomber · 19/06/2012 17:43

Also they are terms that men don't like women to use because of those specific meanings.

SweetTheSting · 19/06/2012 17:41

Wrt the feminism 101 thread, there was also a feminism chat thread that was very friendly - cant remember who strarted it, maybe forkful?

Beachcomber · 19/06/2012 17:40

No they aren't.

They are specific terms that have specific meanings - as yellowraincoat and anyfucker have pointed out.

yellowraincoat · 19/06/2012 17:37

Telling a man I don't want him to tell me how I feel is not silencing him. Well, it is, but with bloody good reason. You have no right to tell women how they feel about stuff.

It always comes back to the same stuff. "Men have to live up to a beauty standard too" etc, which is just ridiculous. If any men actually think they have the same amount of pressure on them, I'm sorry, they're deluded.

It is an internet forum. I can't ACTUALLY silence you. You do realise that? You can just keep arguing. No-one can stop you. I'm not going to come to your house and disconnect your internet.

thechairmanmeow · 19/06/2012 17:34

mansplaining and what about the menz is just a way of silencing someone you dont agree with.

conversations about equality will naturaly come back to men, who else do you want equality with? or is it femdom you want?

ComradeJing · 19/06/2012 17:24

Emphatic, I can't find the thread right now and it's horribly late here. WIll try again in the morning.

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 19/06/2012 17:09

< waves, Hi Any Fucker >

( sometimes simple is enough ? )

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 19/06/2012 17:08

< waves, Hi Jing >

AnyFucker · 19/06/2012 17:05

are we all waving ? < waves at everybody > Grin

ComradeJing · 19/06/2012 17:03
AnyFucker · 19/06/2012 17:03

I think only the men that attempt to speak for women or try to tell us they know how we feel about female issues get accused of "mansplaining"

yellowraincoat · 19/06/2012 16:59

Maybe that's because it gets a bit boring that so many discussions come back round to "but that happens to men too" when it patently doesn't.

It would be nice to just talk about women without talking about men as well.

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