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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A thread started by a man to throw a few things around.

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Sanjeev · 10/05/2012 20:30

Gents (and anyone else who is interested), here is where we can carry on this the discussion from this thread;

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/1465960-AIBU-to-treat-male-and-female-posters-differently-on-feminism-threads?msgid=31694784#31694784

So, who wants to go first?

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MrMagnolia · 10/05/2012 21:00

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/dadsnet/1467094-Changing-role-of-Fathers

Click on this, it'll take you to dadsnet

MrMagnolia · 10/05/2012 20:59

Dadsnet is a section of Mumsnet. In the 'In the club' section.

Sanjeev · 10/05/2012 20:54

What is dadsnet? Where is it? Or did I miss the joke?

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Sanjeev · 10/05/2012 20:53

Asda, this came about from another thread which brought up a lot of questions not to do with the OP. The link is above. Please read that.

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Sanjeev · 10/05/2012 20:52

The privilege thing sounds stupid when we are talking about the homeless, or being on the dole, or working for minimum wage, or stuck in some dead-end crappy lifestyle. In feminist terms, though, everything comes back to comparing yourself to a woman in exactly the same position. At this end of the social scale though, measurement of who's life is slightly less crap can seem a bit meaningless.

Next part coming up.

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MrMagnolia · 10/05/2012 20:52

This should be in Dadsnet Sanjeev. You should ask for it to be moved.

MrMagnolia · 10/05/2012 20:50

If a man talks about mens rights, why is he always classed as an activist? If a woman talks about womens rights she is never classed as an activist. Why is that? Shouldn't men have rights? Aren't they allowed to discuss mens issues?

AsdaFudgeyCal · 10/05/2012 20:46

What is the point of this? Are you trying to suggest that women are A-OK and feminism is a crock-o-shite?

Ask for a MRA section.

Sanjeev · 10/05/2012 20:42

Here we go then - reposting;

'If people talk about privilege in this thread, it doesn't mean that our life -yours or mine - has been a bed of roses. Far from it in many cases.'

So, even if your life is completely crap, you're homeless etc..as long as you're male, you're still privileged because some men in senior positions are?

'It's more a general point that all other things being equal, us blokes have a lot of stuff loaded in our favour.'

Such as? Girls are outperforming boys in schools and universities, more women than men go to university. What do blokes have loaded in their favour?

'Things like being likely to be paid more for the same job, which every survey will tell you.'

Not true.

'Most of the people in power are men - the government, the banks, the CEO's of major companies, so it must be easier for men to get to the top.'

Or, maybe more men choose to work in these industries, and are less likely to prioritise family over work.

If you're such a campaigner for equality Sanjeev, perhaps you'd like question this article...

www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12132990

More men than women contract this cancer, and yet free vaccinations are offered to girls only. Men have to pay for it. Would you class that as equality?

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MrMagnolia · 10/05/2012 20:40

Well Sanjeev, maybe you could answer the points I made on the other thread to kick off this one.

Sanjeev · 10/05/2012 20:38

Firstly gents, there will be a lot of accusations on this board that we, as men, are prepared to wade in to a discussion and take over, so I think if we keep some stuff in here, that is one less accusation we will have to deal with.

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