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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is it easier to be a feminist if you are a lesbian?

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PosieParker · 18/08/2010 09:54

Or are there really men out there that hold feminist values dear too?

Last night my DH said he called someone at work a 'pussy', I nearly choked on my food, since when is such language okay? Whilst my DH can be quite laddish and very far from feminist values I was attracted to him because he's quite masculine. I often wonder whether a more progressive and less Neanderthal man would get my attention or whether I'd find him to emasculated?

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bedlambeast · 18/08/2010 22:33

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vesuvia · 18/08/2010 16:16

I am hetero and my feminism is not primarily motivated by my sexual orientation. Other hetero women will put sexuality much more centre-stage. I believe the same variation applies to lesbians.

I think a man can be a feminist at home. Bearing in mind the stereotypes, ridicule and contempt that female feminists have to overcome, I expect it would be hard for a man to publicly declare himself a feminist. Access to feminist and women's spaces and networks would be limited. In public, I think he would be accepted more as a feminist-sympathiser than a feminist.

I've always thought that men who believe in equality between the sexes are more intelligent, by definition, because they have a better idea of what is right.

LackingInspiration · 18/08/2010 14:45

My Dh is a feminist, and often finds himself challenging the misogynistic banter that is so common in the area he works in. He hates it, and does speak up. They think he's mental for not calling everyone 'cunts' and talking about women as objects only good for sex and cooking.

I'm dead proud of him! Grin

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Nemofish · 18/08/2010 12:35

My dh would call him self a feminist and a humanist too.

He has seen the way negative beliefs about women and what we are capable of have held me back.

We have a 4 year old dd and I nearly cried a few months ago when he said 'hmm, she's getting older now, we'll have to start teaching her about sexual politics and the womens' movement.'

Smile

I know quite a few very lovely blokes who are not sexist and live in an equal realtionship with their other halves, however I do fear that I live in a bit of a bubble full of right-on alternative types... Blush

I do think that most fellas are all right providing you make it quite clear what shite you will tolerate from them, however I think about 40% of men are arses, because they are trained / raised to be so.

I have seen a few intelligent aware women fall into the trap of letting their man treat them like it's the 1950's cos they lurve him though...

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 18/08/2010 11:51

I think there are a lot more female feminists than male ones, so you've probably got a better chance of a feminist partner if you're a lesbian.

But I think my DP for instance would probably call himself a feminist, although he still doesn't quite get why humanism doesn't cover it. He's stuck on the idea that if he's a "feminist" it excludes being e.g. an anti-fascist, or against racism. He's slowly getting it though. I think it's hard for men to get it in a way if they don't hold sexist attitudes, because they don't have those issues to confront in themselves, and at the same time their invisible privilege means they are not forced to confront them day to day as women are.

PosieParker · 18/08/2010 11:29

thanks, I was worried that people may find my OP offensive, it wasn't meant to be.

I wonder if men that are more equal are the more academic or intelligent ones.

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Greensleeves · 18/08/2010 11:25

I think not

heterosexual women have a perspective on gender relations that homosexual women cannot share, and vice versa

it is eaier to be a feminist if you are a woman though, I think

I'm not sure "not being a misogynist" qualifies a man as a feminist tbh. Just a decent bloke who behaves as we should expect all human beings to behave - with respect and maturity

I think a genuine 'male feminist' is a rare creature

frikonastick · 18/08/2010 11:22

um, well i dunno about the lesbian thing, i dont imagine so though. given how mysoginistic behaviour isnt an exclusive male domain.

but with regards to having a DH that holds feminist values dear too, i have one. and he is not emasculated in any way i promise :)

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