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18 year old son threatened with violence after making stupid joke - not sure how to approach college

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MrsToddsShortcut · 25/09/2026 19:25

Apologies as long

My 18 year old DS has just started a specialist college placement after 4 years out of school, due to ASD/OCD. He loves the college and seems happy there, but obviously has lost years of experience of socialising with other kids.

He came home earlier in the week, very upset. During a break, he was reading on his own and some other students (he doesn’t know how old but thinks about 17 or 18) were talking about how many girls they were having sex with but in very offensive language. They asked DS if he had a girlfriend and he said no, and that he didn’t believe they were sleeping with that many girls.
One of them (let’s call him A) then got out his phone and showed DS a video of him and a girl having sex.

Earlier in the day a citizenship lesson had discussed immigration issues. A is Irish and started talking about how hated his people were and how people want to see them kicked out of the country. DS (stupidly, and not really understanding that sarcasm doesn’t always land) did an impression of Nigel Farage and said (in what he thought was a Farage voice) ‘as it should be’.

He meant it as a joke, but it just didn’t land at all and unfortunately A thought he was serious. According to DS, A just exploded. He was incredibly angry and yelling at DS that he was going to beat him up, and that he was going to get 20 men who he knew, to beat up DS outside college and that the only reason he wasn’t beating DS up at that moment is because he knew why he was at that college (i.e ASD). DS tried to explain that he was taking the mickey out of people who hate immigrants and didn’t think his people should be kicked out, and hadn’t meant to upset him. But DS said that he was so angry that he didn’t listen just kept shouting & then left the room.

A presumably complained about DS, as then the Safeguarding lead asked to speak to DS to explain his side of the story. He did and said the Safeguarding lead was very nice and explained that A was there as he had very serious anger issues so couldn’t be in a mainstream college.

The thing is, DS is now refusing to go back and said that he wants to change classes so he won’t be in the same class as A. He was also really nervous when I picked him up as he was genuinely worried that he might get beaten up by a group of A’s friends.

I contacted the college and spoke to the safeguarding lead who said she would ask about changing classes but wasn’t sure if it was possible (there are 3 classes in DS’s intake) but then said it would be good to set up a ‘restorative’ meeting where DS could apologise to A.

This doesn’t sit right with me, as although I have no problem with DS apologising for a badly thought out attempt at a joke, I think the threats of violence are much much worse and have really affected DS at a point where I’m trying desperately hard to reintegrate him into education. The safeguarding lead just glossed over them completely. I also don’t want DS to think that the anger and threats aren’t taken seriously as he needs to feel safe.

I also have serious concerns about the video - I don’t know how old A and the girl in the video are. Presumably over 16 but may not be over 18 and I can’t get past how devastated the girl would feel if she knew A was showing random people that video.

I’m sorry to ask, but I’m Autistic myself and am not sure how to approach the college now. The whole thing feels like a safeguarding issue that isn’t really being taken seriously. They need to address A’s threats anger & threats of violence and I’m really concerned about the video but DS didn’t tell them and doesn’t want me to.

Any advice very gratefully received 🙏

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TheBossOfMe · 25/09/2026 22:46

MrsToddsShortcut · 25/09/2026 22:36

Lonelycrab I think if an adult had been in the room, that might well have happened. From what DS told me, A was in such a heightened state of anger/dysregulation, that I genuinely don’t think he could even hear DS.

Which your DS caused by making an extremely offensive comment.

MrsToddsShortcut · 25/09/2026 22:48

LIZS I completely agree no information should have been disclosed - nevertheless, it was.

it’s okay, I think I said upthread that I wasn’t going to pursue the video (but I do think A is making himself very vulnerable with what he’s doing which makes me feel deeply sad for him and all the other kids growing up in this porn addled world)

No, DS hasn’t been excluded. They were very understanding and nice according to DS. It seems they accepted that it was a deeply misjudged comment but that although it was racist, it wasn’t the intent so I think they’re working with that because of his autism and his extremely delayed experience of socialisation. Obviously if it happens again, it might be different, but that’s my stuff to work on with him.

My hope is that we can meet on Monday, DS can apologise and explain, hopefully A can reassure DS that he won’t actually beat him up and DS will learn a big lesson from it.

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MrsToddsShortcut · 25/09/2026 23:08

TheBossofMe Well yes. I attribute blame to DS for making a racist remark. I attribute blame to A for threatening to get 20 men outside the college to beat the shit out of my son.

Neither action is okay. Both actions took place because there were two students, both with differing vulnerabilities, in the same place at the same time.

DS has a cognitive impairment and developmental delays that mean he didn’t entirely understand that what he said was racist (because he thought he was being sarcastic about people who are anti-immigration). It’s not a defence, it was a bloody stupid thing to say, but it’s an explanation.

A has extreme anger issues. He was triggered by a racist remark and reacted with extreme anger and extreme threats that were completely inappropriate. It’s not a defence, but it’s an explanation.

DS was absolutely wrong to make that remark and A wasn’t wrong to be angry. But angry isn’t threatening 20 men outside the college gates. Both of them need support with this.

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grinandslothit · Yesterday 00:57

MrsToddsShortcut · 25/09/2026 22:36

Lonelycrab I think if an adult had been in the room, that might well have happened. From what DS told me, A was in such a heightened state of anger/dysregulation, that I genuinely don’t think he could even hear DS.

Your son and the other guy are also adults

CherryBlossom321 · Yesterday 01:21

Threats of violence should be reported to the police.

Ohthatsabitshit · Yesterday 01:42

Your son should apologise. Racism is exhausting and pervasive and we don’t need anyone to tolerate it. He misjudged the situation but he still needs to apologise.

The threats of violence need to be reported and dealt with. I’d let it be in school (presuming you have an email trail) unless it escalates in which case call the police.

The video is by far the most concerning aspect and I think you need to involve safeguarding. A young woman is being treated appallingly. Stand up and protect her.

likelysuspect · Yesterday 06:29

Im a bit sick of violent people/kids being described as vulnerable.

Blushingm · Yesterday 13:17

You keep saying your son didn’t understand what he was saying? Does he say things like this at home and you all laugh? Because it’s your responsibility to have educated him on what is acceptable to say and what isn’t. If you say he has a developmental delay then it’s much more important to keep what is acceptable at home the same as what is acceptable in the wider community so as not to confuse him

grinandslothit · Yesterday 13:40

Blushingm · Yesterday 13:17

You keep saying your son didn’t understand what he was saying? Does he say things like this at home and you all laugh? Because it’s your responsibility to have educated him on what is acceptable to say and what isn’t. If you say he has a developmental delay then it’s much more important to keep what is acceptable at home the same as what is acceptable in the wider community so as not to confuse him

Agree you have to wonder what is being taught at home if anything at all

I think some of the parents opt out of doing anything because it's easy but they end up coddling them especially the boys

She mentioned him being out of school for 4 years well what was going on during those four years did he just sit in his bedroom and game. I reckon they didn't have him locked in a tiny cage or something 🤣

MrsToddsShortcut · Yesterday 16:21

Grinandslothit I’ve done none of the things you’ve suggested in your last post, because I’m not racist and I’m a responsible parent trying my best, in the face of a local authority who ignored my endless begging for help for three and a half years before offering six months maths tutoring for 3 hours a week.

It would have been great to do home tutoring but as a lone parent of two ASD kids (the other is much more severely autistic, and their Dad died years ago) I wasn’t in a position to give up my minimum wage job and plunge us completely into poverty. That’s why I asked for advice in the first place. And of course I’ve always challenged anything my kids have said that’s offensive or discriminatory in any way.

Believe me, I wish with all my heart that we weren’t in the middle of a cost of living and SEND crisis and I wasn’t at the mercy of other people’s help so much, and I sincerely hope that your life is better, but there we are.

You, however, seem gleefully amused at the idea that I might be either ignoring offensive/racist jokes at home, while also ignoring my son’s lack of education. Topped off with a laughing emoji.

Why? If you think any of that is a possibility, why in the name of God, do you find it even remotely amusing? It’s not - far from it.

What on earth is wrong with you?

To everyone else on the thread who has answered seriously, thoughtfully and with the intention of challenging and helping, I’m genuinely grateful.

I’ll probably ask for this to be deleted - not for any other reason that when it gets to the point that posters start laughing at the ‘hilarity’ of my imagined home life, it stops being helpful and starts adding to my already significant stress levels.

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grinandslothit · Yesterday 18:34

MrsToddsShortcut · Yesterday 16:21

Grinandslothit I’ve done none of the things you’ve suggested in your last post, because I’m not racist and I’m a responsible parent trying my best, in the face of a local authority who ignored my endless begging for help for three and a half years before offering six months maths tutoring for 3 hours a week.

It would have been great to do home tutoring but as a lone parent of two ASD kids (the other is much more severely autistic, and their Dad died years ago) I wasn’t in a position to give up my minimum wage job and plunge us completely into poverty. That’s why I asked for advice in the first place. And of course I’ve always challenged anything my kids have said that’s offensive or discriminatory in any way.

Believe me, I wish with all my heart that we weren’t in the middle of a cost of living and SEND crisis and I wasn’t at the mercy of other people’s help so much, and I sincerely hope that your life is better, but there we are.

You, however, seem gleefully amused at the idea that I might be either ignoring offensive/racist jokes at home, while also ignoring my son’s lack of education. Topped off with a laughing emoji.

Why? If you think any of that is a possibility, why in the name of God, do you find it even remotely amusing? It’s not - far from it.

What on earth is wrong with you?

To everyone else on the thread who has answered seriously, thoughtfully and with the intention of challenging and helping, I’m genuinely grateful.

I’ll probably ask for this to be deleted - not for any other reason that when it gets to the point that posters start laughing at the ‘hilarity’ of my imagined home life, it stops being helpful and starts adding to my already significant stress levels.

You asked what is wrong with me
I am an adult who is disabled with autism ADHD and controlled OCD who is also deaf. Sometimes I say things that may come across wrong

I wasn't talking about home tutoring I was talking about having conversations about life skills at home taught by you
He was home for 4 years so you just went to work and he just stayed home and did what?
I do wish you and your son well. I have found that once the disabled person reaches adulthood that nobody really cares about us anymore somehow we are just an inconvenience to others I don't know what the answer is for your son but it just sounds like he needs someone on one guidance from you like a list of things that are appropriate and not I don't know what to suggest I'm not an educator but I do understand lists and things that are concrete because yes we are trying to grasp cues of how to behave in society so we can at least get along

AvengingAngle · Yesterday 18:39

Some kind of mediation is a good idea in principle but it needs to be on the basis that both your son and A. were at fault here (albeit with mitigating circumstances) and both need to be apologising.

The sex video should be dealt with as a separate safeguarding issue.

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