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ThickWoodandTrees · 23/09/2026 20:01

I'll try not to drip feed whilst keeping it annon.

3 kids - 18, 16, 16. Married 20+ years. Age gap relationship (47 me and 59 him).

Mortgage until he is 67 (approx £1.5k a month but up for renewal in next 6 months). Approx £750k equity. Owe approx £200k.

I'm part-time in stressful public sector job. Earn circa £35k. He's was higher earner. Walked away with 6 months pay. He took 6 months to get a job (little-no money left). Took a temp contract now ended. Getting a new job is not easy, as you know. I'm currently the only one bringing any money in and it literally covers the mortgage, council tax and gas/electric.

I have a poor pension as I stayed home to raise the kids. He can take his pension. If he takes it now, he could take £100k+ tax free lump sum plus approx £25k a year. If he waits til 65, it'll be approx £35k a year. If he dies, me and the kids get 1/3.

I am beyond stressed, overwhelmed and cannot see the best option for the life of me. I have high functioning ADHD, am perimenopausal and have 3 teenagers who all seem a little lost. I am a chronic overthinker and catastrophiser. I literally cannot see how this could best play out.

Please don't be harsh. I know we are lucky to at least have some options and security. I cannot help how my brain works. I can't see the wood for the trees.

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ThickWoodandTrees · Yesterday 09:48

Nnnutella · 25/09/2026 15:11

Work FT

I wish it was as easy as that. I work 4 days as a teacher. The extra day wouldn't hugely improve our finances (after tax/NI, pension, student loan) but would ruin my mental health/ability to work at all. As dramatic as that sounds, that's the reality. 😢

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Nnnutella · 25/09/2026 15:11

Work FT

Megamegablahblah · 25/09/2026 02:32

The logical thing here which I think is what you are asking is that it makes sense to take the pension at 65 when its 10k higher.

In 2 years time when your kids are 18, increase your hours for as long as you can bear it to put a bit more in your pension.

In the meantime, it would be good to try and pay the mortgage off earlier so he should keep trying with jobs.

And ask what do you value most on how you all spend your time as that dictates the day to day budget. Nothing spent that is not adding value or essential.

BudgetBuster · 25/09/2026 01:41

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 23:26

Council tax and gas/electric is £700. Mobiles £130 for sims (plus 3 handsets on HP - Google ones!), WiFi is £20, sewerage and water, TVs/Spotify, car tax X3, car insurance X3, petrol, house insurance, driving lessons (we are in a lull thankfully), food is £500-600. £200 on college trains... It's not that unbelievable!

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You said that your wages covered council tax but anyhow...

£700 council tax / gas / electric
£600 food
£200 trains
£130 on phones
£20 WiFi
That all totals just £1650

That's still.£2350 to cover car tax, insurance, petrol, subscriptions, driving lessons and any other adhoc. If you are struggling on that then driving lessons & 3rd car are not essential... your kids could get a job and start paying themselves. It's nice to lay WHEN you can but if your DH isn't working and you aren't willing to downsize you need to make reasonable cutbacks.

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 23:58

I agree

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ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 23:26

confusedlots · 24/09/2026 20:06

If your salary is covering the mortgage, what exactly do you need his 4k per month to cover? Groceries? Bills? Car finance? Where is it going?

First of all, sit down with your bank statements and credit card statements from the last 6 months and map out exactly where your money is going every month. I am completely astounded that you are frittering away 4k a month and have no idea where it is going! No wonder you’re feeling overwhelmed!

Council tax and gas/electric is £700. Mobiles £130 for sims (plus 3 handsets on HP - Google ones!), WiFi is £20, sewerage and water, TVs/Spotify, car tax X3, car insurance X3, petrol, house insurance, driving lessons (we are in a lull thankfully), food is £500-600. £200 on college trains... It's not that unbelievable!

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BudgetBuster · 24/09/2026 23:11

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 23:08

3 cars as one is a runaround (13 years old and the 'learn to drive' car). It needs to hold out til alleadnsrs have passed. The other is a 20 year old fun car (only needed when the learn to drive car is being used by the DC) and the other is a camper (our holidays/taking the teens to sports events etc).

Netflix etc- probs not need all. I only use Spotify and Netflix. The rest use Disney.

Food- don't really waste TBH, they just eat A LOT.

Yes to best tarrifs.

Trains = college

Ok well I think you need to sit down with the last 3-6 months bank statements and figure out where your money is gone. What you are saying now currently doesn't stack up at all.

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 23:08

BudgetBuster · 24/09/2026 19:33

Ad a fellow former fritterer niw avid budgeter... if you can comfortably afford to fritter away and not know where £4k is going then I suspect you don't need £4k to live on, you've just overspent because you could. Nothing wrong with that but now is the time to tighten your belts.

  1. Why have 3 cars?
  2. Why spend so much on trains if you have 3 cars?
  3. Are you wasting food? Over-eating? Buying branded when there are cheaper alternatives?
  4. Do you actually use all of teh subscriptions services?
  5. Are you on the best tariffs for gas and electric, phones etc?

3 cars as one is a runaround (13 years old and the 'learn to drive' car). It needs to hold out til alleadnsrs have passed. The other is a 20 year old fun car (only needed when the learn to drive car is being used by the DC) and the other is a camper (our holidays/taking the teens to sports events etc).

Netflix etc- probs not need all. I only use Spotify and Netflix. The rest use Disney.

Food- don't really waste TBH, they just eat A LOT.

Yes to best tarrifs.

Trains = college

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confusedlots · 24/09/2026 20:06

If your salary is covering the mortgage, what exactly do you need his 4k per month to cover? Groceries? Bills? Car finance? Where is it going?

First of all, sit down with your bank statements and credit card statements from the last 6 months and map out exactly where your money is going every month. I am completely astounded that you are frittering away 4k a month and have no idea where it is going! No wonder you’re feeling overwhelmed!

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 24/09/2026 19:43

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 07:43

Yes, it's a draughty old house in a nice area. We will need to downsize but currently we have a house full of our own plus their BF/GF. We have a lot of expenses then as there is no way we could reduce our outgoings so much to survive of his pension.

I worry that if we take the 25%, reduce the mortgage, we will have nothing left. However, I guess that's when we HAVE to sell.

Your teens bf/gf live with you? Can you go up to ft if youre part time to support the teens but dh is now home more?
what support are they needing?

AlexFurbison · 24/09/2026 19:38

Maybe take the £100k lump sum and use it to live off while DH looks for a new job (rather than paying it into the mortgage). This would give you a couple of years to get the kids off to uni, after which you could look to downsize and clear the mortgage.

BudgetBuster · 24/09/2026 19:33

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 08:26

Nope. No debt. No holidays for 2 years. We do have 3 vehicles, TV/music monthly, train fares, masses amounts of food. We must just fritter it away because it's not like we are big spenders. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ad a fellow former fritterer niw avid budgeter... if you can comfortably afford to fritter away and not know where £4k is going then I suspect you don't need £4k to live on, you've just overspent because you could. Nothing wrong with that but now is the time to tighten your belts.

  1. Why have 3 cars?
  2. Why spend so much on trains if you have 3 cars?
  3. Are you wasting food? Over-eating? Buying branded when there are cheaper alternatives?
  4. Do you actually use all of teh subscriptions services?
  5. Are you on the best tariffs for gas and electric, phones etc?
Aligirlbear · 24/09/2026 14:03

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 08:26

Nope. No debt. No holidays for 2 years. We do have 3 vehicles, TV/music monthly, train fares, masses amounts of food. We must just fritter it away because it's not like we are big spenders. 🤷🏼‍♀️

You need to sit down and write down all of your outgoings - everything including any takeaways / coffee stops etc. once you have done this you can then review and stop any unnecessary expenses such as multiple TV streaming subscriptions and get your food bill under control. Once you have done this you will than know how much you actually need to live on. You will likely be very presently surprised how much less you actually need per month if you take control and stop frittering money away on “stuff”. I know it’s easy to spend on the invisible stuff ( take aways etc) when you have the money but in your current circumstances you need to take a detailed look and make sure you know where every penny is going.

skyscraperrain · 24/09/2026 09:59

LadyGAgain · 24/09/2026 00:05

I spoke to an IFA and he said taking the 25% tax free wasn’t a good idea. Keep it in there.

That was advice to you.

it doesn’t apply to everybody.

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 08:26

Nope. No debt. No holidays for 2 years. We do have 3 vehicles, TV/music monthly, train fares, masses amounts of food. We must just fritter it away because it's not like we are big spenders. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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ProsyFossil · 24/09/2026 08:06

In two years, you will no longer be restricted by where your kids go to school. Can you hang on long enough for that and meanwhile plan to move somewhere affordable with your £750k equity?

I know it can be very hard to contemplate moving away from the current home (big draughty house in a nice area sounds like my kind of place) but it seems like it will need to happen sooner or later.

BudgetBuster · 24/09/2026 07:55

Why are your expenses (after mortgage & council tax) so high that you'd need £4k a month? Have you a lot of debt?

Can you go full-time or take up an extra role?
Can you downsize to a house worth £650k so it gets rid of the mortgage? Might be in a further out area but your kids are old enough not to be really restricted by schools I would think?

I think the big issue is the outgoings. There must be something in here to cut back on because it's an awful lot if I'm honest.

ThickWoodandTrees · 24/09/2026 07:43

Yes, it's a draughty old house in a nice area. We will need to downsize but currently we have a house full of our own plus their BF/GF. We have a lot of expenses then as there is no way we could reduce our outgoings so much to survive of his pension.

I worry that if we take the 25%, reduce the mortgage, we will have nothing left. However, I guess that's when we HAVE to sell.

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LadyGAgain · 24/09/2026 00:05

I spoke to an IFA and he said taking the 25% tax free wasn’t a good idea. Keep it in there.

skyscraperrain · 23/09/2026 21:49

QuirkyHorse · 23/09/2026 21:14

Would your dh invest his lump sum, or what would he do with it?
Is £25k enough to contribute to the household and have some spare?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

presumably the £100k lump sum would be used to pay down the mortgage?

OP, have you run the numbers on doing that and then repaying the remaining £100k mortgage monthly out of income? How does that look?

It’s an expensive house, is it large? Are you planning to downsize at any point?

You need to figure out your incomings and outgoings if your husband takes his pension, uses lump sum to repay £100k, continues to work to supplement income, and then how it looks when you both finally retire. If it’s a large house with large running costs you would presumably factor in downsizing at some point.

seahorsessky · 23/09/2026 21:47

ThickWoodandTrees · 23/09/2026 21:34

He needs to bring home total £4k a month really. So still needs to work even if he takes the pension.

Is it worth taking the pension/lump-sum early? I just can't work it all out. I feel so overwhelmed.

That seems a lot-most couples don't make that between them, after tax. Is it very expensive where you live-could you consider moving, maybe?

ACatNamedRobin · 23/09/2026 21:37

How do you need 4k per month after paying for mortgage, council tax and utilities??
Surely it would be comfortable on half of that??

ThickWoodandTrees · 23/09/2026 21:34

He needs to bring home total £4k a month really. So still needs to work even if he takes the pension.

Is it worth taking the pension/lump-sum early? I just can't work it all out. I feel so overwhelmed.

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QuirkyHorse · 23/09/2026 21:14

Would your dh invest his lump sum, or what would he do with it?
Is £25k enough to contribute to the household and have some spare?