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Twin brother expects us to host every time

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FedUpTwinWife · 04/09/2026 16:24

My DH is a twin. His twin has never really stood on his own two feet when it comes to family—never hosts meals, always expects to be invited for Christmas, etc. His twin is married with his own children, but for some reason the family infantilise him. A major bugbear of mine is birthdays—it’s always down to me and DH to host their birthday meal for the family (we invite PILs, siblings, etc). And of course, because the twin literally shares DH’s birthday, we can’t not invite him, or exclude him, so it obviously becomes “his” birthday party too. We did a bigger one for their last milestone birthday, and I had a barrage of emails from the twin’s DW about what kind of cake I should procure (to cater to the twin’s tastes), and who I could delegate to—“MIL can bring x.” There was no offer to help—just orders of what I/MIL should be doing. Their next milestone birthday is next month, and years of this entitled behaviour re: Christmas, etc, have been gradually been building up. I’m ready to explode—this milestone birthday is going to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. The twin asked my DH what “we” are doing for their birthday, and DH suggested it was his turn. His twin said that he/his DW can’t possibly host it, as their house isn’t as big as ours. Not doing something to celebrate with DH’s family is not an option. Neither is not inviting the twin and his DW/DC. Neither is going out somewhere, as the expectation will be that we fund the entire thing, as his twin is too much of a tight arse to pay for anything.

I want to burn it all down, but it is not my family. If it were my family, I’d be very forthright, so I’m trying my best to balance DH’s wishes not to throw a grenade into his family with my own wishes to tell his brother to fuck off and never come to my home again.

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Easilyforgotten · 05/09/2026 13:31

Shinyandnew1 · 05/09/2026 13:06

But then the DH twin says in advance to his twin-‘as it’s a family tradition for the birthday person to pay, we need to split the bill?’

Has he not once said that in 30/40/50/60 years?

If your DH is going to carry on hosting/paying and never saying anything, then I would lose a lot of respect for him. He’s not a peace-keeper, he’s just a pushover.

This is the bit I don't understand. Birthday person pays (strange to me but ok if that's your family dynamic), but surely if there's 2 birthday people, they split the cost? And if not, why not? I can't think of any acceptable response to that.

Beetbeet · 05/09/2026 13:34

LAMPS1 · 05/09/2026 11:13

OP is ‘ready to explode’ at the entitled behaviour over years at Christmas and birthdays. She finds it ‘infuriating’ and is holding back from throwing a grenade into the family and telling the twin to f* off and never enter her house again.

So many solutions and sound advice offered here but OP isn’t taking it in. She is only responding in a light hearted manner as if it were all tongue in cheek venting from the beginning.

She is hiding behind the invented paper-thin walls her and her husband have put up between them eg we can’t go to a restaurant as we would be expected to pay. We can’t ask him to pay for himself as FIL would object and tell DH off. We can’t ask SIL to help as she is bosses me about and doesn’t help or pay.

For goodness sake OP !

Maybe it's just as well if OP is able to keep up the front that it's all just lighthearted. Because it will never, ever be any different. Neither OP nor - crucially - her husband is prepared to change anything. They will both still be feeding this dysfunctional family dynamic (and still feeding LazyTwin and LazySIL) for decades into the future.

At their 60th, 70th, 80th and 90th birthday parties (and at soooo many events in between), OP will be catering for both of them. Luckily LazyTwin will inherit the PILs' money (because he's a special boy and needs it), so OP and her husband might not be paying for all of his care home costs. Just some of them. Ho ho ho, there's no fun like being the least favoured child and accepting that position forever!

HelenHywater · 05/09/2026 13:43

I agree, nothing is going to change because no one - including the OP and her H want to change anything. Which I think OP knows and maybe has just come on here to vent. And given you can't / won't change the rest of the family's behaviour (including your H's) you need to change yours -which means either putting up wtih it all, or saying something and distancing yourself.

Personally in the past I was expected to host most things as I had the largest house, but I did share the load by getting people to bring food and drink etc.

Dontevenlookatme · 05/09/2026 13:51

Honestly OP reading your post and updates the issue is your DH. He wants to celebrate his birthday with the family but won’t set boundaries. I’d be telling him to complain to the right people or not at all.
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Shinyandnew1 · 05/09/2026 14:11

Easilyforgotten · 05/09/2026 13:31

This is the bit I don't understand. Birthday person pays (strange to me but ok if that's your family dynamic), but surely if there's 2 birthday people, they split the cost? And if not, why not? I can't think of any acceptable response to that.

Absolutely.

Even if doormat twin husband is a high earner and CF twin brother is a carer, there still shouldn’t be the expectation that the high earner always pays and hosts.

For this to be going on for decades with doormat twin saying nothing, he’s probably not going to change now though!

arcticduck · 05/09/2026 14:13

FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 12:33

This would definitely throw a grenade. Especially if this message/accusation of bad parenting comes from the DIL (me). MIL is very much a “no woman is good enough for Mummy’s little soldier” type of woman. This coming from the woman who “stole” her son will go down like a lead balloon.

So let it.

arcticduck · 05/09/2026 14:15

This is just pathetic. Honestly.

LeavesOnTrees · 05/09/2026 14:18

This is for your DH to sort out. I would literally do nothing. This includes any organising or preparation for the party.

I'd warn my DH in advance that i've had enough and he's on his own with it.
Any requests for cake or whatever would get referred back to DH. I'd be tempted to not even be there on the day and say to DH you'd like to treat him to a birthday restaurant dinner the following week.

You are helping to enable this dysfunctional setup.

WallaceinAnderland · 05/09/2026 14:23

DH wants to celebrate his milestone birthday with his parents and all of his siblings. He does not want to host. But because his twin has said that he cannot host, it is looking like we will be having the meal here by default.

To be fair to DH, he does do most of the cooking when his family come.
The issue in the communication is that it’s between the twins themselves—I’m not involved. Literally the only time I was put in the loop was when his DW was sending her “requests” via email for the last milestone dinner. We literally have not emailed or texted in a decade.

These are OP's own words.

Her DH wants to celebrate with his family. His twin brother has done what OP would like to do around hosting, which he is perfectly entitled to do and many posters have been encouraging OP to do.

As her DH wants it and does most of the cooking anyway, I say it's his party, let him cry if he wants to crack on.

Poppooooooooooppioopiooooioyittioo · 05/09/2026 14:25

Surely your DH can say to his own twin brother ‘it’s your turn to either host or pay. You’re taking the piss.’

Toodarktooearly · 05/09/2026 14:44

Gothwife · 04/09/2026 19:33

They’re grown adults. They absolutely do not need to have joint birthday celebrations. I would say I’ve organised a surprise for DH so you’re celebrating on your own this year. It doesn’t need to be something outlandish; a night in a log cabin with a hot tub, a night at a spa hotel, a caravan at butlins, literally anything! They may sulk, but that’s a them problem. They’re not still sharing the same womb.

The husband wants to celebrate with his family

Hatscarfgloves · 05/09/2026 14:44

There is a similar (ish) dynamic in DH’s family and we host every Christmas and Easter - with the family coming to stay for 3 or 4 days (sometimes a week!) each time. We also host ad hoc during the year during half terms etc.

About 5 years ago I properly lost my shit over it, especially because DH and I are the only ones who work (family is wealthy but DH and I think work is important so we don’t just live off the increasingly dwindling inheritance…) and in my view the rest of them are entitled and lazy.

Anyway, I told DH that I would just no longer accept it. I would no longer have DH and I carry the burden of being responsible for planning, cooking, arranging and paying for what amounted to approx 2 to 3 weeks a year when no one ever offers to reciprocate or help. So I decided that we would “host” in that they could stay at our house but each (adult) person would be responsible for a day each. They are expected to plan, shop and cook. Everyone has to pitch in to help clear and tidy. I usually take charge of the “big” meals (because I prefer my own cooking!) but the cost and execution of the others falls on them. There was some initial grumbling, but I ignored it and they have now accepted it and this is now the norm. They know the spreadsheet is coming a few weeks before each event! Perhaps they don’t like it but they don’t say anything and I wouldn’t care anyway!

I guess what I am trying to say with my somewhat long winded anecdote/vent, is that dynamics can change. But you have to be willing to make it happen and stand your ground. In your situation, I would make the next birthday meal one where you assign each a course/dish OR insist it be a restaurant where every family group pays for themselves. Their choice. You don’t need to frame it as “you’re useless parents/people”, just say you are finding it too much now and it is time for everyone to pitch in. Nothing will change until you make it change. But it can work, I promise!

lizzyBennet08 · 05/09/2026 14:49

I think I'd get out ahead of it and text twins partner etc saying do ye want to celebrate together etc and iif they say yes id say can you starters and dessert and we'll do main and host? With people like this you need to be blunt.

PangolinFriend · 05/09/2026 16:13

Ask DH why he doesn't want to spend his birthday with you doing something special and adult? Because when he thinks about it, he may realise he's resorting to childhood patterns simply through habit and/or fear of upsetting the apple cart and decide to break them.

Cycleaway · 05/09/2026 16:38

FedUpTwinWife · 04/09/2026 20:09

How do your parents fit into your dynamic? Do they mollycoddle your LT?

Although not twins, my DH and I are both responsible siblings. We decided we had had enough, so stopped engaging with it. From my not very random sample of two mollycoddling mothers, I would would imagine your MIL’s instinct to mollycoddle LT will be her overarching emotion in any situation. once you start being very firm and sticking to your guns, id be really surprised if she didn’t expend more energy on solving LTs issues than pressuring your DH.

which isn’t to say that he won’t initially be met with a lot of pressure to fall in to line. But when he doesn’t bow down to that, their main focus will be on finding someone else to solve his life for him. You might be met with a few days of moaning or sulking, but then they’ll move on and pretend it never happened.

In this specific situation I’d probably find out what DH wanted to do, and then act accordingly; communicate to everyone else what is happening and stick to facts. That might look like, DH has suggested going here, the cost per head will be x, or it might be everyone is invited to our house, mil please bring x and LT/sil, I will leave you to arrange the cake. Whatever you do, present it as decision rather than a negotiation, and if they push back, say ‘well, we are organising x, y and Z, so I’ll let you and MiL lease between yourselves. And then leave them to it (/turn your phones off!)

Littlejellyuk · 05/09/2026 16:58

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/09/2026 12:50

Sometimes, grenades have to be thrown.

This ☝️ 💣 💥

Easterchicken · 05/09/2026 17:09

Play her at her own game

Tell her what cake your husband wants and to find a venue and say in sure mil will bring the sausage rolls

thepariscrimefiles · 05/09/2026 17:33

FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 12:33

This would definitely throw a grenade. Especially if this message/accusation of bad parenting comes from the DIL (me). MIL is very much a “no woman is good enough for Mummy’s little soldier” type of woman. This coming from the woman who “stole” her son will go down like a lead balloon.

Your DH's family all sound awful in different ways. Mothers like your MIL who don't think that any woman is good enough for their precious sons are pathetic. Your FIL expects you and your DH to treat LT like a vulnerable child who needs needs to be mollycoddled and subsidised and LT's wife sounds as entitled as he is.

Are you able to vent to your DH about their entitled behaviour or would he be upset if he knew that you didn't view them through the same rose-coloured glasses as your DH?

Beetlebum1981 · 05/09/2026 17:34

You offer to have the gathering at your house, twin & SIL can arrange the catering as you’ve organised every other year and are feeling ‘stressed with work/unwell/facing redundancy..’ therefore can’t cope with the extra stress at the the moment.

6784xx · 05/09/2026 17:37

FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 12:33

This would definitely throw a grenade. Especially if this message/accusation of bad parenting comes from the DIL (me). MIL is very much a “no woman is good enough for Mummy’s little soldier” type of woman. This coming from the woman who “stole” her son will go down like a lead balloon.

You say that as though it is a bad thing?

Why - what is the problem long term with a grenade called "make LT and his enabling parents grow the hell up" ?

FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 17:37

thepariscrimefiles · 05/09/2026 17:33

Your DH's family all sound awful in different ways. Mothers like your MIL who don't think that any woman is good enough for their precious sons are pathetic. Your FIL expects you and your DH to treat LT like a vulnerable child who needs needs to be mollycoddled and subsidised and LT's wife sounds as entitled as he is.

Are you able to vent to your DH about their entitled behaviour or would he be upset if he knew that you didn't view them through the same rose-coloured glasses as your DH?

Yes, I am able to vent to DH. He gets it.

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FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 17:39

6784xx · 05/09/2026 17:37

You say that as though it is a bad thing?

Why - what is the problem long term with a grenade called "make LT and his enabling parents grow the hell up" ?

I’m not going to tell PILs this, just as it would be inappropriate for my DH to tell my parents where they may have gone wrong with my siblings. Completely inappropriate. I don’t know anyone IRL with decent emotional intelligence who has confronted an in-law with their views on how they raised their spouse’s siblings badly.

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thestudio · 05/09/2026 17:40

FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 17:39

I’m not going to tell PILs this, just as it would be inappropriate for my DH to tell my parents where they may have gone wrong with my siblings. Completely inappropriate. I don’t know anyone IRL with decent emotional intelligence who has confronted an in-law with their views on how they raised their spouse’s siblings badly.

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I understand - but you've not responded to the hundreds of posts which say your DH needs to do so.

Pedant61 · 05/09/2026 17:41

Well stop having "birthday meals for the family" for a start!

FedUpTwinWife · 05/09/2026 17:41

thestudio · 05/09/2026 17:40

I understand - but you've not responded to the hundreds of posts which say your DH needs to do so.

That’s his relationship to manage. People on this thread are trying to get ME to do it.

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