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How long could a small three-bed flat work for our family?

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brbttyl · 27/07/2026 17:53

How long realistically do you think we can live in this flat for?

I'm buying a flat to have kids in. It's 3 bed and 80 square meters so a very small 3 bed. It's also the biggest that we can afford as we live in an expensive area.

Both DP and I freelance from home. The living and bathroom are big family size and everything else is on the small side.

We want two kids and will start TTC next August.

Kids start local school age 5 years here. It's so oversubscribed that siblings are not prioritised unless they're in the catchment area. So if you move, your younger child likely wont get in.

So we can either move within catchment which next step up for a home would be extra £300k as they are so in demand and really its just a larger three bedroom in a better decorated building. Or move out of catchment.

This primary school is great. It would mean we would need to live in the flat for about 9 years to get two kids into catchment. Assuming the kids are 2/3 years apart and we live in the flat for 2 years before the birth.

How long realistically do you think we can live in this flat for?

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brbttyl · 28/07/2026 22:32

@mumumental I don't think so. We don't own the roof just the attic so can't put in a window. Also judging by the space (haven't been up but can estimate) there's not enough room to stand, so it will be storage

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mumumental · 28/07/2026 22:30

Basic loft/attic conversion in time.

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 22:29

@BirdLandedonmyHead thank you I had no idea!

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BirdLandedonmyHead · 28/07/2026 22:25

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 22:21

@BirdLandedonmyHead yes just catchment. What's it in England?

The main difference is schools have a set number of children they can take. So if there is more applicants than places, you dont always get into your closest school. Or the school your other children attend.
Scotland makes the classes after knowing how many children need places that year.

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 22:24

I love the flat! I am very excited. I am also a planner and really like to get ahead with a vision.

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Blisterinthe · 28/07/2026 22:21

It's fine, my flat is only a few square meters larger without any storage space and we do just fine with one child (plus an army of his friends). We know a couple that live in a flat with the exact same layout with 3 kids and it's totally fine. Buy it if you like it, don't buy it if you don't, you're thinking way too far into the future as a LOT will change in 9 years.

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 22:21

@BirdLandedonmyHead yes just catchment. What's it in England?

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BirdLandedonmyHead · 28/07/2026 22:16

If schools are really important to you, do make sure you have read the admissions document (based on tenements though... Scotland? Admissions there are simpler than England. I believe its just living in Catchment, or faith for the Catholic schools. )

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 22:12

I've already posted about it being 3rd floor before I bought and got some supportive replies from super mums!

maybe I cant use buggy in the stair.
It's an old tenement building made of stone with no group rules. So unless it's a legal thing to not have it there there are no building rules. Noone would have to walk past it to get to their door.

I currently rent the ground floor one bed. So I know all the neighbours. Everyone keeps to themselves. No kids, they all rent and theres high turnover. I lived in a tenement 5 years ago where someone chained up the buggy. Usually there are loads of bikes on stairways chained up in my city.

And for those asking about the office and kid rooms, I am not making any solid plans about working at night while my child sleeps just exploring different ideas and am open to solutions.

I know it won't be easy but we can't afford to rent a place this large, and cant afford to buy anything bigger.

Location and schools are our priority and I live by the best school. In my city birth rates are rising so I just hope they don't close in on catchment areas

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ElegantlyDressing · 28/07/2026 19:03

I think third floor is even more of a dealbreaker than 2xWFH. I also doubt you’ll be allowed to padlock a pushchair in the hall for fire escape reasons and getting baby, toddler and say stuff from a day out up the stairs by yourself is going to be really hard.

FlyingToniBoxes · 28/07/2026 18:58

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 16:21

no were 3rd floor- G, 1st, 2nd 3rd

We do have a car and we can padlock a buggy to the stair railings downstairs. We're prioritising catchment areas and locations over space

Are you sure your building rules allow this? It's usually against fire regulations.

Your updates suggest that actually this won't work at all. Your OP was misleading. You can't plan to work in children's bedrooms while they sleep, and while some families manage third floor without a lift with babies, you can't usually keep a buggy in a communal hallway because it's in everyone's way.

FlyingToniBoxes · 28/07/2026 18:52

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 11:36

@ElegantlyDressing we each need a private space for calls but both rooms could fit a desk, chair, wardrobe and single bed - just nothign else. So we could technically have two rooms. DP and I both work late into the night. I can take my laptop anywhere but he needs a monitor for his work.

Let's say we had a 2 and 5 year old. Could one share a room/office with me and the other with DP? DP is silent. could he work from his office while the DC sleeps int he same room or will this jsut not work?

No. You don't put your office in a child's room, you put it in your room and you keep the other portable between a lock up set-up in the living room when the children are at childcare or asleep, or your room or a co-working space when the children are being cared for in the living room/ older and hanging out in the living room.

FlyingToniBoxes · 28/07/2026 18:47

brbttyl · 27/07/2026 17:53

How long realistically do you think we can live in this flat for?

I'm buying a flat to have kids in. It's 3 bed and 80 square meters so a very small 3 bed. It's also the biggest that we can afford as we live in an expensive area.

Both DP and I freelance from home. The living and bathroom are big family size and everything else is on the small side.

We want two kids and will start TTC next August.

Kids start local school age 5 years here. It's so oversubscribed that siblings are not prioritised unless they're in the catchment area. So if you move, your younger child likely wont get in.

So we can either move within catchment which next step up for a home would be extra £300k as they are so in demand and really its just a larger three bedroom in a better decorated building. Or move out of catchment.

This primary school is great. It would mean we would need to live in the flat for about 9 years to get two kids into catchment. Assuming the kids are 2/3 years apart and we live in the flat for 2 years before the birth.

How long realistically do you think we can live in this flat for?

Forever if you give the children a bedroom each by the time the eldest is 8 or 9, and compromise on your work from home set-up (one in your bedroom, one in a lock up desk unit in the living room, or take it in turns to work from a co-working space.). One or other of your working arrangements may very well change over the years meaning working somewhere other than at home.

HarrietofFire · 28/07/2026 18:39

I agree with a PP the size is doable with one or even two babies but the 3rd floor with no lift and a shared communal hall really isn’t.

I posted earlier saying how well it worked for me but we were 1st floor with our own front door, small enclosed entrance hall just big enough for a pushchair and I could leave the baby asleep down there if necessary. Only one flight of internal stairs with a stair gate at the top.

I can’t imagine how you could possibly get a baby, a toddler, all their stuff and any shopping up and down all those stairs and it would be really disturbing and unfair to your neighbours while you were doing it. They might also be working from home, shift working, or even unwell. Small children can be particularly noisy on stairs and if you’ve woken a baby at the bottom to take it out of the push chair and carry it upstairs it’s not going to be very happy.

The space is fine. The stairs are absolutely not. Your question should really have been ‘how could a flat on the third floor without a lift and a communal hall work for our family?’ other people may have experience of living in similar circumstances and be able to advise.

BringBackCatsEyes · 28/07/2026 16:49

canklesmctacotits · 28/07/2026 16:07

Both parents plan on wfh full time, with a baby and toddler in the background. Forget the size of the apt, that sentence alone is impossible. If they’re relaying for childcare they may find it cheaper and wiser to save towards a bigger property!

Has OP said they don’t intend to use childcare?

chemmie · 28/07/2026 16:46

I get planning ahead but basing location around catchments when not even pregnant is a little
premature. Plus the falling rolls means schools lose funding and close…

Inevergotthatfar · 28/07/2026 16:43

I WFH a fair bit and would feel dreadful making them share their bedroom space with my working life, so no that won't work. They could share one bedroom, is the other room big enough for both of you to work from? If not can one of you work from the kitchen / dining table permanently or hire a workspace somewhere. I have a fold out desk I get out of my wardrobe or work downstairs in the kitchen or living room.

SingleSexMattersInCharity · 28/07/2026 16:42

i think the size of your flat is fine. However being 3rd floor might not work for you. When I was pregnant we lived in a flat. Top floor (2nd). I ended up with pelvic girdle pain during pregnancy (sometimes needed a wheelchair). I had to crawl up the stairs. Then when DS was born (big baby) I struggled. We moved to the house when he was 9 months old.

Size is fine. Being on the third floor might not be!

BirdLandedonmyHead · 28/07/2026 16:38

I had a baby in a second floor flat (with the laundry in the basement) and it wasnt as bad as some peoole make out. You do need a decent baby carrier however (I recommend going to a sling library) In fact having bedrooms and living areas on the sane floor was easier in a way. Im glad we moved before toddlerhood though.

Kirys · 28/07/2026 16:32

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 16:21

no were 3rd floor- G, 1st, 2nd 3rd

We do have a car and we can padlock a buggy to the stair railings downstairs. We're prioritising catchment areas and locations over space

Are you sure - some flats have banned this due to potential fire hazard or either other residents don’t want the clutter. Hope you can park your car close as wrestling a sleeping or fractious toddler out of their pushchair, collapsing it in the steer to put in the boot (would need to strap baby / toddler into car seat whilst you do this) and then humping sleeping, fractious, tired, wriggling baby / toddler down the street, into your block and up 3 flights of stairs - will not be fun. You will have to strategically plan going in and out and shopping.

Esmeraldathe3rd · 28/07/2026 16:30

You cannot padlock a buggy to communal stairs.

The stairs will really be a big issue. And what about when you're bringing shopping in. Even if you get it delivered they'll deliver it 4 flights down from your home. How're you going to do that with a toddler.

The space is fine. You could easily make it work, you are being restrictive yourselves with the how but you'll find you just have to sacrifice and work in a shared space. But the stairs are just a killer. Especially if you have a c section, god I can't imagine. And I'm 30 odd weeks pregnant now, no way I'd choose to climb 4 flights of stairs with my 1yo.

You'll manage, you'll have to. But it's not a wise choice.

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 16:21

no were 3rd floor- G, 1st, 2nd 3rd

We do have a car and we can padlock a buggy to the stair railings downstairs. We're prioritising catchment areas and locations over space

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Kirys · 28/07/2026 16:16

brbttyl · 28/07/2026 15:45

since its a flat I believe the chimney Breast is connected to the three flats below that also have a fire place.

Works are so expensive like this. I think the £5k it would take to do major works that need planning permission etc would be better put to saving for an upgraded home

3rd floor no lift

3rd floor - no lift. Ouch with baby, toddler, pushchair, car seat…..wouldn’t go for 2 under two in that instance. Getting two toddlers up and down 3 flights of stairs safely will be your biggest issue. If you have a car you could leave pushchair in boot?

If there are 3 flats below - do you mean 4th floor ?

canklesmctacotits · 28/07/2026 16:07

Gonnaeatalotofpeaches · 28/07/2026 13:34

We had a baby and toddler in a 65m2 for a while it was actually really easy to keep clean and tidy as long as you aren’t into having loads of stuff it would be fine. We have 110m2 now and we don’t actually use the upstairs in a day to day basis in our duplex. So kids share a bedroom age 3&4 years and husband and I take the other downstairs bedroom. We have an office and bedroom upstairs that rarely get used. I think it’s a myth you need a four bed house for a family of four.

Both parents plan on wfh full time, with a baby and toddler in the background. Forget the size of the apt, that sentence alone is impossible. If they’re relaying for childcare they may find it cheaper and wiser to save towards a bigger property!

SingleSexMattersInCharity · 28/07/2026 15:49

To add to my comment above (and slightly peeved that some claim your flat is too small, when my house is smaller yet has worked for 20 years!) I WFH in the living room. I have a secretary desk (an Ikea one) that I fold out during the day (I use a riser, an extra monitor keyboard and mouse - proper desk set up) and put away at the end of the day. Setting up and closing down is my commute.

I’m sure there will be space for you to have something similar. There’s also a very posh brand (Pith & Stem) who do gorgeous wall mounted fold away desks.

My DC are opposite sex so had a room each and even though all rooms are small we’ve managed to fit a double bed in the box room!

You are planning ahead so can choose furniture that works. Most of our furniture does double duty.

Our bed = storage
living room sofa = spare bed
Living room foot stool = storage, extra seating or with a tray a table
Desk = storage and workspace

Also think walls and height.

I saw a lovely desk/bookcase by La Redoute (called Marcela) that would work for your flat and allow you to maximise space/room use.

Planning ahead is such a good idea. Good luck.

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