Ham pr disasters 55! …no neither David Attenborough or John major will be head of state! ….

I agree the Markles are a horrendous mess and wouldn't blame Meghan if she wanted nothing to do with them. She is protesting a bit too much, however, about being supposedly vilified for being estranged from her father. It really is a footnote issue and the supposed "vilification" was not much more than what any person in the public eye typically has to deal with. Not to mention, I'm sure many people find the Markles problematic and can understand why Meghan isn't close to them.

So, I can understand why no one from her father's side was at the wedding. But, what about her mother's side? Does she have no aunts and uncles? No cousins? Close family friends?

Maybe the letter wasn't dated?

But she did famously keep a diary of her time in the UK, so yes, she's definitely getting caught up in her lies.

I appreciate I'm stretching so hard to give her the benefit of the doubt that I could touch my heels with the back of my head, but unless she just completely blanked the whole thing for her mental protection, it does show her utterly weird sense of priorities - that she takes great offence over lipgloss not being shared but is apparently unconcerned that her DF has been accused of CSA.

For the record, I've had to turn in a phone battery and iPad battery thst swelled dangerously for safe disposal. Also, I think TM Sr moved to Mexico in 2011 sincecitcwas cheaper than California. He may have been too broke to buy new tech.

I thought the lawyer's comments about customs were interesting. The boxes would have been shipped from Mexico to the Philippines before going onto the US. If TM Jr was able to immediately spot CSA, then a trained customs inspector should have picked it up.

It's not you, jeff - or if it is, a lot of us are in the same boat

As usual where M&M are involved the whole thing's riddled with inconsistencies, and while whatever Thomas Snr may or may not have done isn't their fault, the natural suspicion about anything they come out with certainly is

I suppose we should just be grateful Harry's not opened his mouth so far, because when it happens it'll hardly improve matters

I don't know but I honestly struggle to believe anyone in the world would be able to muddle the dates over something like this.

Years ago someone I once worked with was arrested on suspicion of a serious crime. I can still remember the exact year I happened, and that was just with a former colleague. Pretty sure it would've been burnt into my brain had it been my father.

Both Harry and Meg have great memories over every little detail and infraction of the RF…..but can’t rem the date of this?

They made a NF docu about things that happened up to 6 years earlier….but they can’t between them, remember when they got this devastating news?

The MIGS would never have allowed her to make a spectacle like this.

Letter was 2019. Has meg now explained why she cut contact with him in 2018?

Yes, how odd

"She can hardly be held responsible for the timing of when the letter she passed on to the specialist Met Protection Unit was passed on inhouse or to where."

What you on about? The letter wasn't sent to her. It was sent to the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre, a specialist Met unit.

Her spokespeople have already admitted that she got the date wrong.

Perhaps get some basic and widely reported facts right before you accuse others of being horrific. You could simply have read Meghan's own statement, in which she says that a Met unit showed her the letter in 2018.

A conspiracy wasn't claimed by me. It was denied that once again a man might be a pedophile, but let's pick apart women around him, that we don't like for no sane reason.

Yet as someone pointed out, she has a great memory for every small perceived slight from the RF!

I’m impressed that people still have their phone chargers from 2011/2013.

So it seems the Sun was so eager to get this story out that no due diligence was done.

Yep. It's also lies that she didn't keep records – the fact she kept a secret journal made headline news at the time!

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/meghan-markle-journal-royal-secrets/

And I think that the true reason for leaving the USA has yet to be revealed; this is the blip before the tsunami. I als greatly suspect that if she starts throwing dirt at her family then the ensuing response from them will be shocking revelations about her previous life.
No way is she a sweet innocent ingenue however hard she tries.

I think it could explain why Harry decamped back to UK so rapidly and has tried to get under the wing of his father the monarch so desperately. He wants protection from any actual (long overdue, no thanks to HaM) investigation.

It might also explain his naive obsession with the IPP status he wants (but will never have). He wants sanctuary like diplomats have, because he doesn’t want to have to answer questions on his inaction.

And where’s Harry?

Like not sharing a lipgloss.

I have one from 2006 because I have my original iPod video and it has to be plugged in all the time to work 😂. As you were….

I agree. But her fragile ego alongside her poor impulse control has shown her to emotionally knee jerk react every time. She has no ability to process, to be considered and strategic or to see the broader context and impact on others. In this case the victims. She is triggered to grift and grasp and grab every opportunity for herself.

Here she is attempting to conflate two very separate events which may or may not be connected (that’s for LE in various jurisdictions to conclude) just to pump up her reputation.

Why is she involving herself here - her actions are only ever self serving but she’s making a terrible mess that’s distracting and derailing from any clarity and truth for investigation.

She really is chaotic,

Yes but since they returned they have done absolutely exactly to piss off the RF so know knows

I have an actual phone from 2013. It has lots of important, sentimental messages on it that I wasn't able to transfer over when I got a new model so I just kept it.