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Goading and group pile ons

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LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 10:04

I would be grateful if you could confirm what measures you take to deal with goady posters and pile on attacks. I am seeing this on here every day and nothing is being done about it. I have sent you two emails.

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Twiglets1 · Yesterday 20:08

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:53

I just feel like shit that unwanted attention followed me to a longstanding thread. I have therefore told the great posters I have bowed out of the thread. All looks wrong doesn't it when you see it in black and white - on a forum.

It does look wrong & sorry that happened to you. There are some strange characters on MN but try not to take it personally. I know that’s easier said than done.

noblegiraffe · Yesterday 20:07

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:54

Does that relate to everyone who posts a lot?

Basically, yes. Particularly if you have opinions and aren't just posting on 'what did you have for dinner' threads.

justasking111 · Yesterday 20:01

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:53

I just feel like shit that unwanted attention followed me to a longstanding thread. I have therefore told the great posters I have bowed out of the thread. All looks wrong doesn't it when you see it in black and white - on a forum.

Time to change your name to something cute like
Blue eyed kitty 🧿🧿

EasternStandard · Yesterday 19:55

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:53

I just feel like shit that unwanted attention followed me to a longstanding thread. I have therefore told the great posters I have bowed out of the thread. All looks wrong doesn't it when you see it in black and white - on a forum.

Noo stay on it, it’s ok. That post should be here where it’s bolder in mnhq style so it’s more noticeable.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:54

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 19:46

MN encourages posters to challenge posts rather than deleting them, it can be very frustrating but it's the way the forum operates.

If you post a lot, it will attract many responses

Does that relate to everyone who posts a lot?

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LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:53

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 19:42

I still don't understand why the response was posted on the LiW thread instead of here? Do you know?

I just feel like shit that unwanted attention followed me to a longstanding thread. I have therefore told the great posters I have bowed out of the thread. All looks wrong doesn't it when you see it in black and white - on a forum.

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DuncinToffee · Yesterday 19:46

MN encourages posters to challenge posts rather than deleting them, it can be very frustrating but it's the way the forum operates.

If you post a lot, it will attract many responses

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 19:44

I’m so baffled that anyone would care so
much about another poster that they would do an advanced search or put them through AI.

There’s a poster on here that’s so unpleasant and posts constantly in bad faith (but has deletions on every thread they’re on but still hasn’t been banned) that I wish I could block but it wouldn’t occur to me to AI them or put them through an AS. They themselves admitted they do this. Do people care this much?

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 19:42

EasternStandard · Yesterday 19:39

Don’t worry I’ve seen what you’re talking about. Clearly mnhq concur hence their post. You don’t need to defend yourself or explain further.

I still don't understand why the response was posted on the LiW thread instead of here? Do you know?

EasternStandard · Yesterday 19:39

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:39

If you've been on the receiving end of all those points, within a short space of time, your response might be different. You've simplified what Becky has said. Do you get your posting timeframe thrown at you, have your posts put through AI, hinted at that you're someone other than BoredZelda and a bot or worķing for a political party? If not, walk a mile in my shoes.

Don’t worry I’ve seen what you’re talking about. Clearly mnhq concur hence their post. You don’t need to defend yourself or explain further.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:13

opaldark · Yesterday 18:56

You don’t really need to “put posts through” AI, you can literally ask AI to tell you about X poster. That doesn’t take enough effort to be defined as creepy I don’t think, it’s quicker and easier than the search function. I’ve personally done it with prolific posters where I’m not quite buying their stories, only for my own satisfaction, not allowed to troll hunt of course but it personally annoys me how people come onto MN to make a mockery of women.

I've no problem people putting my name through an AI check or whatever, it's posters using AI to interpret a thread direction to try and prove somebody is racist or has another agenda. That is the problem and it all comes down to intolerance of different views, who can't debate at face value so sink to other methods.

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opaldark · Yesterday 19:12

@noblegiraffe yes absolutely. I remember that thread. I’m merely saying it’s not the level of creepiness some posters used to go to to go through old posts with a fine tooth comb, that takes a lot more effort.

noblegiraffe · Yesterday 19:08

opaldark · Yesterday 18:56

You don’t really need to “put posts through” AI, you can literally ask AI to tell you about X poster. That doesn’t take enough effort to be defined as creepy I don’t think, it’s quicker and easier than the search function. I’ve personally done it with prolific posters where I’m not quite buying their stories, only for my own satisfaction, not allowed to troll hunt of course but it personally annoys me how people come onto MN to make a mockery of women.

Bear in mind that AI will happily tell you a pile of bullshit about a poster.

It claimed I voted for Nigel Farage and made up a story about another poster's MIL using her breast milk on her FIL's cereal.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5154969-chatgpt-can-get-in-the-fucking-bin-fuming

ChatGPT can get in the fucking bin. Fuming. | Mumsnet

There was a thread on twitter asking people to see what ChatGPT said about them, so I tried it with my MN username. After correctly identifying that I...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5154969-chatgpt-can-get-in-the-fucking-bin-fuming?page=1

opaldark · Yesterday 18:56

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 12:32

A poster put mine and another person's posts through AI and proudly produced the interpreted results.. How is that not creepy. Why would they do that? Thanks for your support.

You don’t really need to “put posts through” AI, you can literally ask AI to tell you about X poster. That doesn’t take enough effort to be defined as creepy I don’t think, it’s quicker and easier than the search function. I’ve personally done it with prolific posters where I’m not quite buying their stories, only for my own satisfaction, not allowed to troll hunt of course but it personally annoys me how people come onto MN to make a mockery of women.

WearyAuldWumman · Yesterday 18:54

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:50

Was your stalker a bloke? I am fairly sure mine was. You can tell.

Agreed. That was certainly the case with one of mine. It got rather creepy - at one point wittering on about how they didn't want to interact with me but still felt that they had to 'like' some of my posts.

When they couldn't get me to respond directly, they started making derogatory comments. Meh.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 18:51

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:50

Was your stalker a bloke? I am fairly sure mine was. You can tell.

I think so. A previously banned poster under a new name I suspect.

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:50

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 18:48

I think they banned mine too. They vanished without trace. I’ve also had very personal comments using material harvested from other threads. I’ve noticed you attract a lot of unwelcome attention @TooBigForMyBoots.

Was your stalker a bloke? I am fairly sure mine was. You can tell.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 18:48

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:45

Agree that if you feel you are being stalked, report. I was stalked, mnhq were really helpful and eventually banned the stalker.

I think they banned mine too. They vanished without trace. I’ve also had very personal comments using material harvested from other threads. I’ve noticed you attract a lot of unwelcome attention @TooBigForMyBoots.

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:45

Agree that if you feel you are being stalked, report. I was stalked, mnhq were really helpful and eventually banned the stalker.

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:43

TooBigForMyBoots · Yesterday 18:09

I get piled on all the time. It sucks but I'm kind of used to it.🤷‍♀️

I've also been stalked across the boards by an obsessive. I contacted Mnet who asked me for specifics. When I AS'd, I felt sick. That a stranger on the internet was so invested in me was disturbing.😕

I second @noblegiraffe's advice. And if you're being harassed by an individual, report to mumsnet with what they've done.Thanks

I have noticed you often get a hard time.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:39

BoredZelda · Yesterday 15:56

Hang on, are all the “please don’t” things now to be part of the talk guidelines? They are effectively saying you must take a person at face value, not use advanced search etc to see what they’ve posted before. Will you be getting rid of that function now? And are you really saying people shouldn’t use AI on Mumsnet, because that’s going to lead to a major drop off in the number of posts and a drop in your engagement figures, isn’t it?

If you've been on the receiving end of all those points, within a short space of time, your response might be different. You've simplified what Becky has said. Do you get your posting timeframe thrown at you, have your posts put through AI, hinted at that you're someone other than BoredZelda and a bot or worķing for a political party? If not, walk a mile in my shoes.

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TooBigForMyBoots · Yesterday 18:09

I get piled on all the time. It sucks but I'm kind of used to it.🤷‍♀️

I've also been stalked across the boards by an obsessive. I contacted Mnet who asked me for specifics. When I AS'd, I felt sick. That a stranger on the internet was so invested in me was disturbing.😕

I second @noblegiraffe's advice. And if you're being harassed by an individual, report to mumsnet with what they've done.Thanks

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:33

Thanks @noblegiraffe

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CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 16:33

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:23

Are you on the threads where it's happening to read in context?

I recognise your name and have definitely been on some threads. I haven't read every post on this one.

pokewomans · Yesterday 16:32

@TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne I have been on Tattle (sent there by here over that midwife fallout) but didn’t know that. I will check it out one day!

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