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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

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LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:12

If Antifa don't chant free Palestine, I will vote Labour in the next GE. That's how confident I am.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:15

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:12

If Antifa don't chant free Palestine, I will vote Labour in the next GE. That's how confident I am.

Not all Antifa will shout that

Just like not all far right will do a certain salute

I thought you were voting Reform?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:17

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:15

Not all Antifa will shout that

Just like not all far right will do a certain salute

I thought you were voting Reform?

No I am true blue, but not of the turquoise variety.

LizzieW1969 · 25/09/2026 14:18

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 14:04

I must have imagined the times when we have disagreed on the Starmer/Burnham threads. And the political arguments I have with my left wing DH.

Indeed, we had some heated discussions during Starmer’s last days in office!

smooththecat · 25/09/2026 14:19

You are right. It’s grim. MN is grim. I don’t know why I’m on here tbh, it fuels my depression. I think the days of the messageboard are kind of done. The culture of this one is not great and some of that is down to design choices. If you navigate active threads like I do it’s pure bile, Daily Mail comments section bile. At least with Reddit you choose what to follow and your main feed is mostly that. I’m also pretty sure the site is overrun with bad actors and that they are not on top of it at all here. See the daily faux naive threads about Israel.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:22

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:17

No I am true blue, but not of the turquoise variety.

Ah ok, I thought you had said that the Tories needed to persuade you to come back from Reform.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:25

smooththecat · 25/09/2026 14:19

You are right. It’s grim. MN is grim. I don’t know why I’m on here tbh, it fuels my depression. I think the days of the messageboard are kind of done. The culture of this one is not great and some of that is down to design choices. If you navigate active threads like I do it’s pure bile, Daily Mail comments section bile. At least with Reddit you choose what to follow and your main feed is mostly that. I’m also pretty sure the site is overrun with bad actors and that they are not on top of it at all here. See the daily faux naive threads about Israel.

The irony of using Reddit as a good place! What daily naive threads about Israel? You wouldn't be lumping all people who don't agree with you into one would you? I see this loads on here, if you don't worship Labour, you're a bot/troll, far right, racist etc etc.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:25

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:22

Ah ok, I thought you had said that the Tories needed to persuade you to come back from Reform.

I abandoned Conservative at the last GE.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:27

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:25

The irony of using Reddit as a good place! What daily naive threads about Israel? You wouldn't be lumping all people who don't agree with you into one would you? I see this loads on here, if you don't worship Labour, you're a bot/troll, far right, racist etc etc.

You just lumped all left wing people into omnicause/antifa

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:32

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:27

You just lumped all left wing people into omnicause/antifa

They lump themselves as one, that's the point, and always with a self righteous sneer. I've said there are exceptions.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 15:01

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:49

The left wing ideology lumped in one. Occasionally they will drift away but their causes are normally commonly shared, in the name of progression. They could be classed as hard left as the right are considered far right.

Are you accusing all left wing people of being antisemitic, and do you believe that antisemitism is never observed amongst those on the right?

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2026 15:16

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

How has this government “punished” you via taxation? I ask because tax rates haven’t risen since July 2024 and I’m paying no more tax than I was then. Actually I lie because my taxable income has risen. Am I special and everyone else is being “punished”?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 15:22

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

It's sad that you resent the payment of benefits to people with disabilities, but you are entitled to your views.

The cost of a motability car is not made in addition to the higher rate of PIP, as you have suggested. The £80 per month is essentially the mobility element of the PIP, which is used to pay the lease of a motability vehicle - so people will not get both.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 15:28

It is also worth adding that it was the Coalition government that introduced PIP in its current form, and the shift away from face to face assessments happened under the Tories. Labour is increasing the proportion of claimants who need to be assessed face to face.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.

myjamisbetterthanyours · 25/09/2026 15:30

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2026 15:16

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

How has this government “punished” you via taxation? I ask because tax rates haven’t risen since July 2024 and I’m paying no more tax than I was then. Actually I lie because my taxable income has risen. Am I special and everyone else is being “punished”?

Of course you are special!

No one’s ever doubted that!

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2026 15:32

myjamisbetterthanyours · 25/09/2026 15:30

Of course you are special!

No one’s ever doubted that!

I think most people would disagree that I’m special - certainly not enough to get my own personal tax rate.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 15:37

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2026 15:32

I think most people would disagree that I’m special - certainly not enough to get my own personal tax rate.

Of course you're special @blossomtoes. But not to the extent of getting your own personalised tax code. Grin

dreamiesformolly · 25/09/2026 15:49

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

OK then, here’s a suggestion for you.

If you walk out into the road and get yourself run over, you might qualify for PIP yourself. Then you’ll get all those lovely benefits too, OK you might not have legs any more, but who cares about legs if you can get a free cinema card eh? 🙄

Alternatively, you could try thinking rationally and understanding that people who are on PIP need that money, and that actually no, you wouldn’t want any of their lives in return for a few quid in benefits. Count your blessings FFS.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 16:07

I said there were some who don't subscribe to FP, who are on the left.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 16:10

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

Never voted for them and never will. I think they destroy this country whenever they're in power. I agree with you.

roxyro · 25/09/2026 16:11

dreamiesformolly · 25/09/2026 15:49

OK then, here’s a suggestion for you.

If you walk out into the road and get yourself run over, you might qualify for PIP yourself. Then you’ll get all those lovely benefits too, OK you might not have legs any more, but who cares about legs if you can get a free cinema card eh? 🙄

Alternatively, you could try thinking rationally and understanding that people who are on PIP need that money, and that actually no, you wouldn’t want any of their lives in return for a few quid in benefits. Count your blessings FFS.

Oh how dramatic. I know 4 people on PIP and not one is disabled in the true sense. All have anxiety or so they claim. One is son of acquaintance. Just passed driving test, bought 5 year old BMW, now private number plate and when having his latest review she had to hide his savings as he could only keep 6k in savings (think it's 6k). She told me last year he gets so much he doesn't know what to do with it. Admittedly doesn't smoke or drink, stays mostly at his gf's place. After most recent review they stopped his mobility, £200 per month and he's up in arms about it. Even been to MP about it. Makes my blood boil. I'm all for people getting help but in my experience it's grifters who game the system and the ones in genuine need get turned down.

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 16:15

dreamiesformolly · 25/09/2026 15:49

OK then, here’s a suggestion for you.

If you walk out into the road and get yourself run over, you might qualify for PIP yourself. Then you’ll get all those lovely benefits too, OK you might not have legs any more, but who cares about legs if you can get a free cinema card eh? 🙄

Alternatively, you could try thinking rationally and understanding that people who are on PIP need that money, and that actually no, you wouldn’t want any of their lives in return for a few quid in benefits. Count your blessings FFS.

Can I get ADHD from being run over?

I see the award rate is 43% for ADHD claims.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 16:16

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 16:15

Can I get ADHD from being run over?

I see the award rate is 43% for ADHD claims.

Edited

Maybe you can develop some empathy?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 16:17

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 16:15

Can I get ADHD from being run over?

I see the award rate is 43% for ADHD claims.

Edited

So what? Most people with adhd probably never even claim.