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Hatred towards social housing tenants on here getting worse.

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JenniferBooth · 17/12/2023 13:51

And really nasty and out of control Here is one example but there have been many

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4964096-to-still-feel-slightly-bitter-about-this-inheriting-social-housing?page=1

There have been a few threads in the last week alone. Its like this is a nice safe little prejudice that the social housing haters can enjoy with no comebacks.

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I grew up in a two bed council house with my mother (single parent) and my sister in what could now be considered a highly gentrified area within walk...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4964096-to-still-feel-slightly-bitter-about-this-inheriting-social-housing?page=1

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Bloodybloodtest · 17/12/2023 18:47

@Comedycook

I have 2 adult DDs renting in London. I would rather that for them than suffering DV and allocated social housing as a result.

I think some people would prefer that all social housing was sold off, rather than providing for those in need, because of misplaced jealousy. I expect to see workhouses return in some form during my lifetime.

Comedycook · 17/12/2023 17:21

Bloodybloodtest · 17/12/2023 17:02

People never stop and think about the reasons people turn to social housing. For example my mum was fleeing DV with her children. This was decades ago. She is no longer in social housing but many people (well in areas of high demand anyway) have an unpleasant background story. It’s not winning a prize.

Im afraid that nowadays if u get allocated social housing you have definitely won a prize. The private rental market is absolutely hideous. If you aren't in a position to buy and you're not able to get sh, you're in a dreadful situation

OllyBJolly · 17/12/2023 17:15

I don't think people understand how social housing works (and doesn't).

I grew up in a council flat. All my friends did until we moved to a new town where there were some people in what we called "bought houses."

When I left school, the process was you signed on at the housing. If you waited long enough (and were happy to remain in the town), you were allocated a council flat. If you didn't, you saved for a deposit and bought somewhere. No need to be unemployed, destitute, low paid. There was no stigma. Wait a year or so and you got your first home.

In my view, this is how it should work. The biggest mistake was the "right to buy" which just depleted housing stock, leading to the booming exploitative private rental market. If your situation isn't desperate enough to be eligible for social housing, you're too often at the mercy of greedy landlords with substandard properties. That's where the jealousy comes from. At least, social housing is secure, upgraded at intervals (not as frequently as many think) and rent is generally less than private renting. We need a properly run social housing sector.

Bloodybloodtest · 17/12/2023 17:02

People never stop and think about the reasons people turn to social housing. For example my mum was fleeing DV with her children. This was decades ago. She is no longer in social housing but many people (well in areas of high demand anyway) have an unpleasant background story. It’s not winning a prize.

Dontcallmescarface · 17/12/2023 16:55

AlisonDonut · 17/12/2023 16:01

People are allowed opinions still aren't they?

No-one is saying they're not, just why do some have to be so nasty when doing so. Everybody living in SH has the right, according to the LL's, to be there so where is the justification for posters calling us "selfish", "freeloaders" or even blaming us for the lack of SH stock? Also, it's not our fault that private rents are high or mortgage payments have gone up but it doesn't stop endless posters sneering at us because our rents are cheaper than they pay. The constant hate dressed up as "opinions" for something that we have no control over is tiresome.

AlisonDonut · 17/12/2023 16:01

People are allowed opinions still aren't they?

JenniferBooth · 17/12/2023 15:53

@Spirallingdownwards you could say that about any subject or prejudice

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Spirallingdownwards · 17/12/2023 15:50

Is it a good idea then to start another thread about it?

Dontcallmescarface · 17/12/2023 15:48

MN " people who are earning anything more than NMW should be made to move out of SH as they are depriving others that are doing NMW jobs of a home"

Response " Quite right OP, they're so selfish denying others a home"

Also MN " AIBU to object to plans to build 100 SH units on land near me?"

Response "YANBU, I wouldn't want that near my home either".

It's very odd that the only people on MN seen as being selfish and denying others the right to live in SH are.....well, those of us who live in SH.

Candycurrantbun · 17/12/2023 15:17

People have always hated SH tenants on MN and as for the jealousy bollocks. Most Mumsnetters won't send their kids to a school if it has a housing estate catchment or buy a house within a mile of a housing estate so they certainly wouldn't live in one.

Babyroobs · 17/12/2023 15:12

Leah5678 · 17/12/2023 14:54

Honestly. We are jealous. As waiting lists get longer and private rent gets more expensive you can expect the jealousy towards the lucky ones who do get a council home to increase. Not saying it's right btw just explaining the cause of the hatred

Yes I agree , it's jealousy. People see young single mums getting social housing relatively easily/ getting their parents to chuck them out, or making out they have split from partners to move up the waiting list quickly. Meanwhile lots of us have grown up adult children in their mid- late twenties with no hope of affording private rent, and if they can afford private rent it is not possible to save for a deposit and they have little chance of moving out of their parents home particularly if single and on an average income. Much of the social housing available is new builds, in reasonable areas and rent is a lot more affordable than private rent. I can completely understand why people would feel jealous especially as most seem to stay in them for life.

vodkaredbullgirl · 17/12/2023 15:02

I have been HA now for 25 years, back then when I was with the ex we had been on the housing list 8 years, prior to that. I do feel sorry for people who private rent, as it's double what I pay.

JenniferBooth · 17/12/2023 14:58

@Leah5678 DH and i live in a one bedroom flat DH is disabled and we really need a bungalow But i dont blame the tenants already living in bungalows.

Why is the hatred not aimed at the developers. Do i really have to post the Elephant and Castle example AGAIN

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ElevenSeven · 17/12/2023 14:56

I think for some people, it just seems massively unfair that some can get it, while others can’t. And the cost of private rents and mortgages have skyrocketed.

Comedycook · 17/12/2023 14:56

I think this is a reflection on the housing crisis and economic situation. Social housing is like gold dust nowadays and people are jealous and fed up.

Leah5678 · 17/12/2023 14:54

Honestly. We are jealous. As waiting lists get longer and private rent gets more expensive you can expect the jealousy towards the lucky ones who do get a council home to increase. Not saying it's right btw just explaining the cause of the hatred

vodkaredbullgirl · 17/12/2023 14:50

They watched too many programmes on social housing and the people. I'm in social housing there are good and bad places, where I am is not so bad.

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