Can we have a separate topic for all the Israel/Palestine threads?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/4923418-new-topic-for-discussion-of-the-middle-east-conflict-and-a-word-on-our-moderation

I’ve just noticed there seems to be a new board: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east

I completely agree with this.

^And this! These threads need round the clock monitoring from impartial moderators. We all have our opinions, moderators will too. Maybe deletions should be peer reviewed to make sure moderators don't let their own politics influence whether a post is deleted? Mumsnet need training on fake news, laws around promoting terror, unconscious bias towards all minorities.

I'd also say that posters who attack other posters by describing them as disgusting, no humanity etc who have had their posts deleted should be banned. Because the dehumanise other posters, which is so destructive, aggressive and unacceptable.

This place has become hysterical and civilised discussion is impossible. It's all shriek, shriek shriek. Completely unreasonable.

I'd say considering the desperate situation for Palestinians and Israelis as well as Jews worldwide, the potential for terror and retaliation, any israel/palestine posts or active terror posts should NOT be allowed in AIBU.

Anti Israel comments I can understand during this heightened time but the antisemitic comments on some of these threads is absolutely horrific. A Mumsnet user since the start I cannot get my head around what I have been reading. Not only does this topic need its own part of the site, some of these posters hiding behind their anonymity are on threads that need proper moderation from HQ.

I question whether many of those threads are being started in good faith. They seem to be actively courting simplistic and polarising POVs. There’s one in AIBU at the moment where the OP has attacked posters who have questioned their two polarising and unnuanced AIBU options and told them to fuck off and write a book if they want nuance.

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I agree that these threads need a home.

However, please don't call it something like 'middle east conflict' or Israel/palestine, this would be so defeatist and hopeless and only invite trolls, propaganda, hurt and offence.

I'd say all israel, palestine, Ukraine war or terror related threads should preferably go into the News section as most threads are related to breaking news.

Alternatively, there could be a forum called:
Humanitarian Issues
Regional Politics
International Affairs
International Relations
World Peace

But absolutely, please find a suitable and respectful category for the sheer lunatic number of threads about conflict, terror etc. News would probably work fine.
There should also be strict talk guidelines for such topics to stop inflammatory propaganda posts. This place has been mental this last week.

What is needed is not another topic which MNHQ refuse to move threads into, it’s for existing topics to be used.

What is needed is a War topic unfortunately.

It would be clear what it is for. If people don't read or watch the news because they don't want to, they won't be wanting to see it here either.

It is a very upsetting topic but people come here to get away from it in many cases, but it is continually being discussed, new threads, same posts.

I'm with you @AnxiousPangolin I don't see the point of having lots of sections yet MNHQ allowing people to post in AIBU "for traffic". My pet peeve here is people starting non-AIBU threads in AIBU, and just as big a peeve that MNHQ refuse to move them when reported. What's the fucking point of having numerous sections then, just have a massive AIBU for everything! 🙄

I agree OP.

MNHQ have done the same whenever there are tonnes of threads about any particular subject, and I think they should do the same with this one.

I question whether many of those threads are being started in good faith. They seem to be actively courting simplistic and polarising POVs. There’s one in AIBU at the moment where the OP has attacked posters who have questioned their two polarising and unnuanced AIBU options and told them to fuck off and write a book if they want nuance.

Happens every time there is a big news event. Hence the hundreds of COVID and Ukraine threads etc.

Seeing the nth thread asking for someone to explain the situation in words of one syllable is really starting to grate as well. If you’re too stupid to search for the 25 other threads asking the same question, how will you understand?

I've come on here to ask the same thing.

I'm avoiding the news because I'm finding it overwhelming and now it's all over MN, in almost every section.

I mean I'm pretty sure multiple threads containing large amount of ignorance and misinformation aren't particularly helpful though are they? I do think people should be able to discuss on here, but plenty of better places to get information and I do think if people are coming to MN for an escape they shouldn't have to be bombarded with tonnes of threads full of the same incorrect info.

Being moved to News would be fine surely, oh and some actual decent moderation by MN.

Interesting. I found this thread as I was checking to see if anyone had already suggested a separate topic and if not, was going to. I'm finding the constant barrage of overt and covert antisemitism incredibly debilitating and I'm wondering if I have to just leave mumsnet for a while. At least if it was contained in a single place I could choose if and when I engage with it.

I'm already frightened for my family in Israel and my children and family here. I'd like to be able to enjoy some escapism on occasion for my mental health without being constantly reminded how many people wish us ill.

I agree we need a separate topic for it.

I agree with and support this comment.

Yes I agree. There was one this morning just posting Twitter links.

Just came here to see if anyone else asked. I did via report on 11th.

It doesn't have to be specific gaza/israel topic, just "current war" or something because this is getting ridiculous.
Every "dummy" is starting new thread on the same topic because their thoughts are special and must be heard separately and it is taking over.

the same thing happened with Ukraine. mn hq said no.

You know there are a lot of people who don't watch the news, right? Masses.

I don't know; I was all for a Covid section because of the amount of threads, and the discussions being so similar; but this feels different. I'm not sure that ignoring it is possible; or wise. It's a massively escalating situation and not one that you should be able to sanitise your internet usage to ignore, I don't think.

That said, I do think they are easy to avoid; I have no real interest in debating it here so I haven't clicked anything about it.