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Henrietta Barnet Stage 2 Test & Results - 2027 entry

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RuggedUp · 09/10/2026 06:54

Hi, for anyone that sat the stage 2 test on Tuesday - what did your DD think of the papers? My DD said there were 3 or so multiple choice questions at the end of the maths paper but it was not clear where the answer should be written - whether to circle the answer as there was no separate multiple choice answer sheet. She asked the invigilator who said ‘they couldn’t tell her and she had to work it out’. She wasn’t asking for help with the question but trying to work out where to write the answer. They were also short of papers at the start of the exam. Anyone else heard anything similar from their DD.
Separately does anyone know when they start to release results; conscious CAF forms need to be submitted by the end of the month.

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sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 09:49

RuggedUp · 09/10/2026 06:54

Hi, for anyone that sat the stage 2 test on Tuesday - what did your DD think of the papers? My DD said there were 3 or so multiple choice questions at the end of the maths paper but it was not clear where the answer should be written - whether to circle the answer as there was no separate multiple choice answer sheet. She asked the invigilator who said ‘they couldn’t tell her and she had to work it out’. She wasn’t asking for help with the question but trying to work out where to write the answer. They were also short of papers at the start of the exam. Anyone else heard anything similar from their DD.
Separately does anyone know when they start to release results; conscious CAF forms need to be submitted by the end of the month.

Not sure about that particular issue with the maths papers; my DD didn't mention it. She just said both maths and English seemed easier than she expected (compared to the second round of DAO, for example). However, I will check with her once she is back from school.
About the 2nd-round results, Henrietta Barnett will not announce them at all. If you put this school as your first choice, you will only find out in March whether your daughter has gained a place or where she sits on the waiting list. As I understand it, those who are not eventually offered a place, or who didn’t put it as their first-choice school, can write to HBS after National Offer Day to ask for their daughter's scores. Furthermore, if you live within the 3-mile catchment zone, the second-round results don't actually matter, you will automatically be offered a place if you put HBS as your first choice on the CAF.

sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 10:33

And I think the reasoning behind not revealing the scores is that they don't want the girls who are eventually admitted to HBS to compare their scores with each other.

eXistenZ · 09/10/2026 11:49

sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 10:33

And I think the reasoning behind not revealing the scores is that they don't want the girls who are eventually admitted to HBS to compare their scores with each other.

It's funny they do that cause girls entering from the waitlist would have an approximate idea of their rank.
Also every year, parents raise Freedom of Information requests to get partially anonymised results from the council. It's not hard to put together your position on the list based on those results. It's a bit difficult if a large number of girls are from the same postcode (a few Harrow ones :)) but usually it's quite easy.

sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 12:30

eXistenZ · 09/10/2026 11:49

It's funny they do that cause girls entering from the waitlist would have an approximate idea of their rank.
Also every year, parents raise Freedom of Information requests to get partially anonymised results from the council. It's not hard to put together your position on the list based on those results. It's a bit difficult if a large number of girls are from the same postcode (a few Harrow ones :)) but usually it's quite easy.

not so straightforward - girls entering via waiting list still could have higher overall scores than some girls who get offer in March because they live in the 3 miles zone.

sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 16:12

RuggedUp · 09/10/2026 06:54

Hi, for anyone that sat the stage 2 test on Tuesday - what did your DD think of the papers? My DD said there were 3 or so multiple choice questions at the end of the maths paper but it was not clear where the answer should be written - whether to circle the answer as there was no separate multiple choice answer sheet. She asked the invigilator who said ‘they couldn’t tell her and she had to work it out’. She wasn’t asking for help with the question but trying to work out where to write the answer. They were also short of papers at the start of the exam. Anyone else heard anything similar from their DD.
Separately does anyone know when they start to release results; conscious CAF forms need to be submitted by the end of the month.

Asked my daughter, and now I am completely confused! She said her paper had exactly 21 maths questions, with a clear "END OF TEST" message at the bottom of the final sheet. She is certain they were all written, free-response questions with no multiple choice at all. She distinctly recalls one of the very last questions being a written problem about finding a water level. I wonder if they gave out slightly different variations of the papers to different rooms?

Breeze67 · 09/10/2026 16:37

sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 12:30

not so straightforward - girls entering via waiting list still could have higher overall scores than some girls who get offer in March because they live in the 3 miles zone.

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Of the 120 girls enrolled, only 20 to 30 live within 3 miles, so those on the waiting list certainly have lower entrance scores than most of their Year 7 classmates.

Wonderknicks · 09/10/2026 16:50

sha6alinastya · 09/10/2026 16:12

Asked my daughter, and now I am completely confused! She said her paper had exactly 21 maths questions, with a clear "END OF TEST" message at the bottom of the final sheet. She is certain they were all written, free-response questions with no multiple choice at all. She distinctly recalls one of the very last questions being a written problem about finding a water level. I wonder if they gave out slightly different variations of the papers to different rooms?

The papers will definitely all be the same. How would it be fair otherwise?

Backonceagainnow · 10/10/2026 08:51

Hi all, best of luck to all who have taken stage 2 of the exam.

We took the 1st stage exam but scored 270 so didnt make the cut. I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of marks and how far off we were? Is it an average? We are looking to go to an independent school and were using HB as a practice but im not clear on whether this means we lost 15 marks per paper etc?

Wonderknicks · 10/10/2026 09:51

Backonceagainnow · 10/10/2026 08:51

Hi all, best of luck to all who have taken stage 2 of the exam.

We took the 1st stage exam but scored 270 so didnt make the cut. I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of marks and how far off we were? Is it an average? We are looking to go to an independent school and were using HB as a practice but im not clear on whether this means we lost 15 marks per paper etc?

Age based standardised score so no, it's not 15 marks lost per paper & you can't guess the raw score unless the school will tell you.

Breeze67 · 10/10/2026 21:50

Backonceagainnow · 10/10/2026 08:51

Hi all, best of luck to all who have taken stage 2 of the exam.

We took the 1st stage exam but scored 270 so didnt make the cut. I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of marks and how far off we were? Is it an average? We are looking to go to an independent school and were using HB as a practice but im not clear on whether this means we lost 15 marks per paper etc?

In your score email, the Round Two cutoff is listed as 344.94. Dividing that by three gives an average of 115 per subject, which places a candidate in roughly the top 10%, while an average of 100 sits near the middle. You can work out your standing from these numbers. It is not precisely a standard normal distribution, but it will give you the idea.

RuggedUp · 11/10/2026 08:22

Thank you for your reply. My DD also confirmed there were 21 questions and a water filling question at the end. So your DD is absolutely correct. My DD is adamant that there were sone multiple choice questions - I’m now wondering if she mistook a multi-part question with numerous options as multiple choice questions ...🙄 Oh well… nothing we can do but wait!

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Maaya7 · 13/10/2026 16:00

Hi - Got an email from HBS this afternoon. I understand their email tends to be vague about the final outcome but could someone clarify what this means? We are in Category 4 - OOC and would really appreciate some insights on how to read this accurately!

As you know, your daughter performed well enough in Round One to enable her to sit the Round Two test. Therefore, it is the case that she may be offered a place at the School....
Assuming the number of applications exceeds our PAN, you are advised to list The Henrietta Barnett School as your daughter's first preference if you do want her to come here.

Breeze67 · 13/10/2026 16:10

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Breeze67 · 13/10/2026 16:33

Maaya7 · 13/10/2026 16:00

Hi - Got an email from HBS this afternoon. I understand their email tends to be vague about the final outcome but could someone clarify what this means? We are in Category 4 - OOC and would really appreciate some insights on how to read this accurately!

As you know, your daughter performed well enough in Round One to enable her to sit the Round Two test. Therefore, it is the case that she may be offered a place at the School....
Assuming the number of applications exceeds our PAN, you are advised to list The Henrietta Barnett School as your daughter's first preference if you do want her to come here.

you are advised to list The Henrietta Barnett School as your daughter's first preference if you do want her to come here.
The wording is strange. Why can't HBS be anyone's second choice? I thought one can list HBS as a second preference and still gain admission if the first preference falls through.

Wonderknicks · 13/10/2026 16:41

Breeze67 · 13/10/2026 16:33

you are advised to list The Henrietta Barnett School as your daughter's first preference if you do want her to come here.
The wording is strange. Why can't HBS be anyone's second choice? I thought one can list HBS as a second preference and still gain admission if the first preference falls through.

That is correct

SilverBlue4 · 13/10/2026 17:28

It just means if everyone who lists as first preference takes up all the spaces then obviously those who listed it as second won't get in. Putting it first increases the chance of a space (if you also make the grade)

user149799568 · 13/10/2026 17:50

Maaya7 · 13/10/2026 16:00

Hi - Got an email from HBS this afternoon. I understand their email tends to be vague about the final outcome but could someone clarify what this means? We are in Category 4 - OOC and would really appreciate some insights on how to read this accurately!

As you know, your daughter performed well enough in Round One to enable her to sit the Round Two test. Therefore, it is the case that she may be offered a place at the School....
Assuming the number of applications exceeds our PAN, you are advised to list The Henrietta Barnett School as your daughter's first preference if you do want her to come here.

I think this is meant to remind people that, if you list HBS as your second preference and you meet the admissions criteria for your first preference, you will be offered a place at your first preference, not HBS, on 1st March, even if your DD scored highly enough to get a place. If you really do prefer the other school to HBS, this is absolutely fine and the advice doesn't apply to you.

Assuming the number of applications exceeds our PAN

If HBS is oversubscribed (which it will be!), someone who actually prefers HBS but makes the mistake of putting another school ahead of it on the application form might be allocated a place at the other school on 1st March and would have to join the HBS waiting list to try to correct the mistake. At that point, the girl would be behind all the lower scoring girls who put HBS first and were allocated a place there on 1st March.

Wonderknicks · 13/10/2026 18:08

SilverBlue4 · 13/10/2026 17:28

It just means if everyone who lists as first preference takes up all the spaces then obviously those who listed it as second won't get in. Putting it first increases the chance of a space (if you also make the grade)

This isn't true. The school doesn't know where people put them. If they put HBS first & aren't eligible they won't get a place. If someone puts them 2nd, isn't eligible for their first but it eligible for hbs they will get it.

Maaya7 · 13/10/2026 18:13

SilverBlue4 · 13/10/2026 17:28

It just means if everyone who lists as first preference takes up all the spaces then obviously those who listed it as second won't get in. Putting it first increases the chance of a space (if you also make the grade)

Understood. It's tough trying to decide and pick it as an option when it's all based on probability!

SilverBlue4 · 13/10/2026 18:15

Wonderknicks · 13/10/2026 18:08

This isn't true. The school doesn't know where people put them. If they put HBS first & aren't eligible they won't get a place. If someone puts them 2nd, isn't eligible for their first but it eligible for hbs they will get it.

Sorry, I did mean those who put it first AND are eligible would take up spaces Vs those who put it second.

My son went to a school as a music specialist so we knew he would get in due to his score in their test (they did give these out before the deadline for admissions applications). We received a similar message/advice email from council admissions so I can only assume some people put these schools second and then get annoyed when they aren't allocated on offer day, which doesn't make much sense!

Breeze67 · 13/10/2026 18:17

user149799568 · 13/10/2026 17:50

I think this is meant to remind people that, if you list HBS as your second preference and you meet the admissions criteria for your first preference, you will be offered a place at your first preference, not HBS, on 1st March, even if your DD scored highly enough to get a place. If you really do prefer the other school to HBS, this is absolutely fine and the advice doesn't apply to you.

Assuming the number of applications exceeds our PAN

If HBS is oversubscribed (which it will be!), someone who actually prefers HBS but makes the mistake of putting another school ahead of it on the application form might be allocated a place at the other school on 1st March and would have to join the HBS waiting list to try to correct the mistake. At that point, the girl would be behind all the lower scoring girls who put HBS first and were allocated a place there on 1st March.

From my knowledge of another grammar school, the waiting list is ranked purely by test score, and the school does not see your preference order on the CAF. Therefore, if a girl scores high within the PAN but makes a mistake on her application and then asks to be placed back on the waiting list, she should be ranked according to her score, which means she jumps the queue and pushes everyone else on the original waiting list down.

Maaya7 · 13/10/2026 18:18

user149799568 · 13/10/2026 17:50

I think this is meant to remind people that, if you list HBS as your second preference and you meet the admissions criteria for your first preference, you will be offered a place at your first preference, not HBS, on 1st March, even if your DD scored highly enough to get a place. If you really do prefer the other school to HBS, this is absolutely fine and the advice doesn't apply to you.

Assuming the number of applications exceeds our PAN

If HBS is oversubscribed (which it will be!), someone who actually prefers HBS but makes the mistake of putting another school ahead of it on the application form might be allocated a place at the other school on 1st March and would have to join the HBS waiting list to try to correct the mistake. At that point, the girl would be behind all the lower scoring girls who put HBS first and were allocated a place there on 1st March.

Thanks, I get that. It's just the vague and noncommital tone of the email which doesn't seem to give you any sort of reassurance. It could very well be the option your DD gets BUT at the same time there's a good chance she won't!

sha6alinastya · 13/10/2026 18:39

Breeze67 · 13/10/2026 18:17

From my knowledge of another grammar school, the waiting list is ranked purely by test score, and the school does not see your preference order on the CAF. Therefore, if a girl scores high within the PAN but makes a mistake on her application and then asks to be placed back on the waiting list, she should be ranked according to her score, which means she jumps the queue and pushes everyone else on the original waiting list down.

I guess very depends on the council speed to react on this, the correction could be too late and sounds risky to drop the offered place in the 1st choice school, as it still waiting list and most of movement could already happen at this moment - I assume its few first weeks of March when kids accepts private schools offers and emptied their places at grammar.

user149799568 · 14/10/2026 17:21

Maaya7 · 13/10/2026 18:18

Thanks, I get that. It's just the vague and noncommital tone of the email which doesn't seem to give you any sort of reassurance. It could very well be the option your DD gets BUT at the same time there's a good chance she won't!

It's just the vague and noncommital tone of the email which doesn't seem to give you any sort of reassurance.

I assume that you received the email because your DD scored within the top 300 on the first round and has taken the second round. If the LEA believes that you live within 3 miles of the school, congratulations, the place is yours (if you put them as your first preference). In recent years, that's been about 30 girls. That leaves 90 places for the other 270 girls. So 1/3 of them will get the option but 2/3 of them will not, at least not as of 1st March.

What tone do you think would have been more appropriate?

user149799568 · 14/10/2026 17:26

Breeze67 · 13/10/2026 18:17

From my knowledge of another grammar school, the waiting list is ranked purely by test score, and the school does not see your preference order on the CAF. Therefore, if a girl scores high within the PAN but makes a mistake on her application and then asks to be placed back on the waiting list, she should be ranked according to her score, which means she jumps the queue and pushes everyone else on the original waiting list down.

if a girl scores high within the PAN but makes a mistake on her application and then asks to be placed back on the waiting list, she should be ranked according to her score, which means she jumps the queue and pushes everyone else on the original waiting list down.

Correct, but that doesn't contradict my statement:

At that point, the girl would be behind all the lower scoring girls who put HBS first and were allocated a place there on 1st March.

Lower scoring girls would have received places on 1st March. The school isn't going to take one of those places away. The girl on the wait list still needs for enough spaces to open up.

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