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Starting Year 11 GCSE 2021 Thread 2

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indy69 · 04/01/2021 15:19

Just continuing on from thread one. Let's support each other through these difficult times. Here is the earlier thread. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/3653238-Starting-Year-11-GCSE2021-title-edited-by-MNHQ

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Cuddling57 · 21/02/2021 22:47

Just seen more in the news about return to school on 8th.
Not sure why it can't be a staggered start? Seems all or nothing.

NotDonna · 15/02/2021 22:00

I agree toobuktim
Mine haven’t had mocks but have had reports and on track. I don’t think they need 1:1’s either tbh. I’m sure there’s plenty of borderline kids that do though. Unless they’ve had honest informative feedback all along. Geez I’d hate to be a teacher.

Toobuktim · 15/02/2021 17:31

@NotDonna I suppose you’re right, I just assumed a 5 min chat about all subjects. We’ve had two parents’ evenings and DS one 5 min chat with head master, plus two written term reports - from our perspective I don’t think DS needs further input from his teachers as he’s on track with target grades and did well in mocks.
Maybe the best way would be another term report, if kids on track then no need for more interventions, just let the teachers speak to those that may need it.

NotDonna · 15/02/2021 14:47

@Toobuktim

Our school does 1:1’s every year with every year group (150 pupils) and they share them out during the week between the head, 3 deputies and the head of year. So a 5 min chat per pupil, 30 pupils per teacher and it seems to work ok. They’ve done it for my my children this year online with Microsoft Teams, so think it would go ok really. Maybe they’d up it to a ten min conversation and add in Form tutors as well if required.
I’d assumed they meant each subject teacher @Toobuktim Our form teachers have 1:1’s with each child every term but when that teacher only has 30 in a form that’s slightly more doable than a maths teacher, for example, who may teach several yr11 classes plus yr13’s. That’s a LOT of 1:1’s. If it’s going to be someone else totally unrelated to their subjects then there really is no point. Their usual reports would suffice - at least each subject is written by the relevant teacher.
treeeeemendous · 15/02/2021 14:37

I'm also hoping for some kind of announcement as to when this year group will finish school.

Cuddling57 · 15/02/2021 13:22

I don't understand how it will all work. Have they addressed the fact that surely every student is disadvantaged and underachieving by the sheer fact of not being taught in a classroom setting as the kids have been used to their whole lives?
Are we just going to have a year of low grades for most of the year group? Are they going to address this problem?

Toobuktim · 15/02/2021 12:44

Our school does 1:1’s every year with every year group (150 pupils) and they share them out during the week between the head, 3 deputies and the head of year.
So a 5 min chat per pupil, 30 pupils per teacher and it seems to work ok.
They’ve done it for my my children this year online with Microsoft Teams, so think it would go ok really.
Maybe they’d up it to a ten min conversation and add in Form tutors as well if required.

NotDonna · 15/02/2021 12:30

Morning all. Happy half term.
The piece in the papers about the 1:1 sessions with all yr11’s and yr13s to discuss their ‘target’ grades seems slightly odd. Maybe it’s to enforce schools to give some amount of feedback where that’s been lacking. Feedback at DD’s school is good but reading other threads that certainly isn’t the norm. I don’t think too much can be read into these ‘target’ grades though. What on Earth do ‘target’ grades even mean? All targets are going to be aspirational surely? Then isn’t that setting the teachers up for when they can’t evidence those aspiring grades? Don’t really see the point. I wonder how larger schools will manage this 1:1 too. Sounds very time consuming. I do like the idea of honesty and transparency but not sure how well this will work. What do the rest of you think?

treeeeemendous · 15/02/2021 10:23

@LynetteScavo I know.

If you look at dd's grades on end of topic assessments she is consistently achieving the same sorts of grades.

When it is amalgamated into a big exam where she doesn't know what the content will be she panics. She struggles to retain all the information and how to use it to answer the question which she sometimes misunderstands.

However, she passed all of her mocks including English language which is the big issue.

She is going to college in September to do a vocational course. She can't wait.

LynetteScavo · 15/02/2021 09:31

My DD is the same @treeeeemendous

I'd like to take DDs mock results and run, but I suspect her school will
Insist she sits more exams.

treeeeemendous · 14/02/2021 19:14

No way my daughter will take the exams if she doesn't have to. She's dyslexic and hates exam pressure. Has already done her mocks so will be hoping for similar grades to those.

ihearttc · 14/02/2021 18:35

What happens if they do badly though and their grades go down? That’s my biggest concern.

indy69 · 14/02/2021 18:34

Our school has actually told the students that the optional exams are another chance for them to up their grades so it is a win win for them.

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ihearttc · 14/02/2021 11:50

I initially assumed it was optional for the school rather than each individual pupil.

Blubell46 · 14/02/2021 11:42

Even if the school decides, I don't think it is fair...if my ds school does the exams but his friends in other schools don't.

Stop making layers of confusion...just make it one decision for all schools.

Toobuktim · 14/02/2021 11:13

I’m wondering if it’s optional for the school or optional for the individual pupils.

Stormer · 14/02/2021 10:11

I agree Blubell - all or nothing (no one)

Plus it’s another thing for the students to be anxious and self-critical about - what to do for the best? Did they make the wrong choice when they see their peers who made another choice do better? Were they cowardly or lazy in letting their general fear of exams dictate their choice not to opt in? (Not how I’d think now of students, but I could imagine the 16 year old me worrying & thinking harshly about myself in such a situation)

If the system isn’t optional, at least a layer of anxiety and self-blame is removed.

Blubell46 · 14/02/2021 09:36

I personally don't like the idea of optionally exam...either we don't have it at all or everyone has it. I just feel it wouldn't be fair.

Either one has it pros and cons but this in between doesn't sit well in my head. Hey ho, that is my opinion.

Cuddling57 · 14/02/2021 09:23

I was coming on to say the news is reporting more positively about going back to school on the 8th too. I'm happy for my freedoms to be limited to facilitate this. Especially for year 11s!
I think the ideal scenario would be own teacher assessments and optional mini exams - a whole range of different types and the children get the highest grade they achieve in any of it. So for example if they get a 7 in one type but 6s in others then the 7 is their final grade!

treeeeemendous · 14/02/2021 08:58

Oh I would love them back in school before Easter. The online learning dd's school is providing is really good although not the same as being in. But I think they need to be in school with their peers, that social interaction is so important.

ihearttc · 14/02/2021 08:55

DS wanted to sit the proper exams but I think at the moment he’d rather not do them if they were voluntary. His grades at the moment are decent enough and I think he’d worry that they’d be pulled down by an exam especially as this first real exam he would ever take.

Toobuktim · 14/02/2021 08:48

Possibly tomorrow, the leaks usually happen 24/48 hours before the proper announcement, but I’m so happy they’ll all (apparently!) get back to school in 3 weeks.
My DS will be a def yes for the mini exams, he won’t opt out, he just wants any chance to sit an exam, he prefers them to continuous assessment.
Not like his mum Grin

ihearttc · 14/02/2021 08:39

Ah that looks promising. I wonder when we will find out about the “mini exams” then?

Toobuktim · 14/02/2021 08:10

And this little snippet too

Starting Year 11 GCSE 2021 Thread 2
Toobuktim · 14/02/2021 08:05

It’s looking promising!

Starting Year 11 GCSE 2021 Thread 2