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GCSEs 2018 (15) The Reckoning

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mmzz · 12/07/2018 22:58

thread 14
The next step of the all new GCSE journey.

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goodbyestranger · 31/07/2018 09:42

No, debt at Oxford is nothing like £100k. The Oxford Opportunity Bursary scheme is enormously generous and covers a relatively broad range on incomes and there are additional scholarships like the Moritz-Heyman too. £100k is entirely wrong.

mmzz · 31/07/2018 09:41

www.harvard-ukadmissions.co.uk/ this link should be useful for anyone who is interested in having their DC apply to any of the US universities

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mmzz · 31/07/2018 09:39

Y12 first term would be accurate and all encompassing but there's been an advantage to having it in two parts:
eg GCSEs 2018 (15) The Reckoning
The first part "GCSEs 2018 (15)" shows the continuity, so people recognise it and can find the latest one even when they don't often come back to post and then "The Reckoning" describes (or maybe doesn't describe) what's happening now.
I was trying to find something short for the first part. A levels 2020 would have been it, if there weren't BTECs and other things too. Then I thought maybe A Levels etc 2020. But that's too dismissive of the non-A levels. Then AH pointed out that 2020 isn't even the relevant year for her DD, so it was back to the drawing board!
We need:

  • inclusive of all abilities and dates
  • non-cliquey
  • allows continuity
  • shortish
  • differentiates from those doing GCSEs in other years

.....and I'm stuck for ideas! However, Stickerrocks always has good ideas. (Hint, hint!)

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Wonderwine · 31/07/2018 09:36

mmzz - no, the debt for a UK student shouldn't be anywhere near £100k. If anything, it will be lower than for other UK universities as living in college with subsidised meals can work out a lot cheaper than the 3d party cafeteria-style restaurants on a lot of campuses.

DS is holding two offers for 6th form - his current academic independent school and the local sixth form college. His current school is assuming he is coming back, but informally they will be expecting him to get a minimum of 4As & 4Bs (and nothing less than a C) in his GCSEs, and in the past, they have withdrawn offers if GCSEs were poor, so we're keeping the 6th Form college as an insurance, but will release it the minute we know his results.

AlexanderHamilton · 31/07/2018 09:25

Some music degrees can be 4 years too. When dh did his degree the BA(hons) was 3 years but the BMus(hons) was 4 years.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 31/07/2018 09:16

Lots of courses can be 4 years. At Warwick you can either do a year abroad in a foreign uni in the third year (even for maths) or convert to (or start with) a Master's. Pretty much all language degrees will need a year abroad, or anything to do with international relations etc.

I'm not sure about the next thread being 'GCSEs 2018.' I think it would put new posters off joining for the sixth form or college or at the start of university or apprenticeships etc. It might make them think we're a bit cliquey. And we're not like that at all. Y12 first term would be my preference.

PandaG · 31/07/2018 09:00

Sorry - DS is doing a 4 year course - he has applied direct for a masters. Languages courses are 4 years, including year abroad.

mmzz · 31/07/2018 08:51

PandaG a four year course?? I thought all degrees in England were 3 years? Except medicine,

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mmzz · 31/07/2018 08:47

Do you have to pick up. iGCSE results in person if you want them on the 14th, or is it school dependent?

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PandaG · 31/07/2018 08:29

Re Oxford debt: not quite that high I dont think... if you count tuition fees and 4 year course: 9k x 4 years 36k, plus full maintenance loan 8.7k x4 years 34k ish - 70k. I know not everyone gets full maintenance by a long chalk, but it gives a ballpark figure. DS is hopefully off to Cambridge in September, I know his accommodation costs (including utilities but not food) will be about 4k, pa, before he even starts to eat, buy any books or clothes, or have the odd pint!

ReservoirDogs · 31/07/2018 08:24

Cblue - yes our school will be doing all results on 23rd even though they'll have had the CIE ones in hand from the 14th.

Why would the debt be more at Oxford (Ie. £100k not £50k). Th terms are shorter, they usually only have to pay for accommodation whilst they are in it (and often have first and last years in halls if not all 3). If anything it should be less surely? I suspect that may be the case for US students attending Oxford because they will not be charged £9,250 for tuition but a higher rate. So possibly Harvard are being a bit disingenuous by saying that the debt would be £100K (which it might be for US students) or they may not appreciate that tuition is lower for UK/EU students.

mmzz · 31/07/2018 08:10

I've just reread my post. Is £100k debt to be expected at Oxford? It seems a bit high, but I'm sure that was the number that was bandied about that night.

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mmzz · 31/07/2018 08:07

And the little, selfish voice in my head that asks "What if he goes there to study and never comes back?"

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mmzz · 31/07/2018 08:05

DH and I found the US system really appealing. It's broad base would have suited DS. It's just so far....

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mmzz · 31/07/2018 08:04

DH and I went to a presentation from one of the US universities outreach programs two years ago. I think it was Harvard.
They are all campus universities but although the fees are high, the bursaries are extremely good. Also, it's typical to get campus jobs eg helping in the library with the result that you leave without any debt at all, unlike Oxford where £100k debt is to be expect.
They make no adjustment for coming from a comp. they have a phrase for it - something like "background blind" when making offers. However, once you have an offer, they look at your family's finances and have a sliding scale for assistance that goes up really high.
You have to sit the SATS to get in. You need to practice regularly for a long time and you are competing globally, including with the best in Asia.
US Degrees are 4 years, unlike England's 3 (Scotland does 4 too) and you study a broad range of subjects.
TBH I wondered how well it would sit with the A level system which is the point of specialism in England. (Again Scotland is different as all students have to continue with English and Maths at this stage).

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BlueBelle123 · 31/07/2018 07:33

DS only has the one offer at his current school as refused to look elsewhere, luckily its low and if he doesn't meet it then he wouldn't get in anywhere else so he would have to forget A levels.......

CBlue I think I would definitely prefer two sets of results days over the not knowing especially when you hear others that know their results but I'm just impatient and would hate the fact the school knew and I didn't.....glad your enjoying America, it sounds like a great option are there fees more expensive than here?

Oddsocks I often found that DD would open up to me when we were away from home and as soon as we got back she would revert to her normal self Smile

Cblue · 31/07/2018 06:15

Hi all!!
Checking in from the other side of the pond - 9 more days of our visit left.
DDs school don't release the IGCSE results until GCSE results day - not sure whether that's a good or bad thing?!?! Knowing they have the results vs going through 2 sets of results days....
DD has accepted 2 offers - one from existing Inde which has high grade requirements and the backup local SFC which would take her even if the 'i have failed them all' doomsday scenario comes to pass. Interestingly the SFC encourages students to accept even if they aren't 100% committed to their choice.
University visits in the US have been really interesting and have helped to crystallise some of her choices and aspirations. She def likes the non specialisation and non linear approach and even I am 'sold' on the concept
.....only spanner in the works is that she's now questioning whether she wants to go to university or whether she wants an apprenticeship/join the forces after A Levels.

I would also vote for gcse class of 2018 as the next title.....in theory with that name we could continue through DCs engagements, marriages and offspring.....although I hope we will need a lot of new threads before it gets used to discuss these life stages!!

Oddsocks15 · 30/07/2018 21:58

Went out for a meal and had a really good conversation with DD Shock learnt loads about NCS. She is having a whale of time and bringing her out of her shell Smile

ReservoirDogs · 30/07/2018 21:44

Kingscote - DS is off to Reading too on 23rd - bus goes at 9.30.

Fortunately school emails results between 6am and 6.30am.

However the school opens at 10 to discuss any potential re-marks etc so hopefully he won't need any or hopefully they will speak to.me!

farangatang · 30/07/2018 21:32

I like terf's suggestion for the next thread title.

Can't believe the first set of results is out in two weeks (CIE). DD started some pre-A Level reading today so hopefully her English results will be what she needs for her 6th Form.

Hope the rain, wind and cold weather have calmed down for everyone and we can enjoy some 'real' Summer again. Holidays seem to be flying by...

teenmum60 · 30/07/2018 20:15

DD has two offers but the fall back school even stated that it over offers and only 1/3 of places offered to external students will actually be taken up...we had an email stating if you wanted to take up the place you needed to turn up on the 23rd.

Given that there are only 69 girls staying on into lower 6th at her current school unless DD's results are incredibly poor she will be staying on because the classes are going to be a nice size ...she also knows the teachers well and they know DD ;-).

mmzz · 30/07/2018 20:15

AH sorry I need the English guides for DS2.
That's a big gap. What is causing it?

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slinkyme · 30/07/2018 20:09

Add Maths too for us on the 16th. I need to check is it the 14th or 16th. I think 14th is when results are released to the school and 16th to us?

KingscoteStaff · 30/07/2018 20:03

Yup, just Cambridge on the 14th (English x 2, French, History and Music for DS) and then all the rest on the 23rd.

23rd will be a busy day - DS and his chums arrive back from their rugby tour, pick up their results, unpack, repack and head off to Reading!

If it’s all disastrous and we need to look at other options for 6th form, I guess Reading gets binned?

Stickerrocks · 30/07/2018 19:59

Alex It may not be grade dependent, but it was definitely talent dependent for your DD!

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