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TV Debate - who did best?

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JustineMumsnet · 15/04/2010 22:00

So there you have it. History in the making; the UK's first live Leaders' election debate. Who do you think did best? Has it confirmed/ clarified your choice or even changed your mind?

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CaveMum · 16/04/2010 15:42

If anyone wants to read more into the Trident debate there is an interesting thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/politics/943852-You-say-disarmament-I-say-renewal?pagingOff=1

CaveMum · 16/04/2010 15:38

Sorry, but as a military wife I believe Trident IS needed, as well as the aircraft carriers etc.

Without Trident we lose our seat on the UN Security Council and in losing that we lose influence on major world-wide issues.

In an ideal world no one would have nuclear weapons, but nuclear technology is out in the open - you can't make anyone forget how to build a warhead.

AvengingGerbil · 16/04/2010 15:33

And has anyone commented on DC's desire to keep Trident just in case those pesky Chinese people attack us? WHAT was going on there???

As far as I am concerned, I shall vote LibDem as I always do. They are the only party with an open commitment to the maintenance and restoration of civil liberties in this country which have been eroded under both Labour and Conservative administrations, and about which both the other parties' manifestos are lamentably silent.

CaveMum · 16/04/2010 15:31

hybred, if we keep on spending, as Labour propose, we are going to get ourselves into even more debt and have to make bigger cuts further down the line to pay for it.

Where is the harm in cutting back on the quangos and government departments that have wasted so much money over the last 13 years.

If Labour were that keen to cut out waste they would have done it already.

hybred77 · 16/04/2010 15:26

sorry ninna but with all the conservatives proposed cuts we are likely to go into a double dip recession if not a depression, the only way for us to get out of this mess is to continue supporting the public services

ninna · 16/04/2010 15:22

All the feedback says that Nick Clegg appealed to most people last night. Small class sizes are a wonderful dream. How many people think the country could ever afford it? How many more of his policies would be equally unrealistic.
Labour got us into the terrible financial situation we're in now. I believe the conservatives would do the best job of managing us back to stability.
The best thing I heard last night was from Nick Clegg. I love the idea that issues such as care for the elderly, pensions, education, the NHS etc, should be considered by the parliament as a whole and not along party lines. Recommendations would then be voted on by the country by way of a referendum.

TiggyR · 16/04/2010 15:16

'Him and his reverse Robin Hood stealing from the poor to give to the rich Eton cronies pray on people's fears and bring out the worst side of humanity.'

Could you qualify/explain please. Have I missed something?

GrungeBlobPrimpants · 16/04/2010 15:15

Cleggie - fab
Gordy - pretty impressive, close second
Dave - meh

Oh and Amazon over Boden please

TiggyR · 16/04/2010 15:10

I think it's unfair to criticise DC for taking advantage of the parental 'choice' over schools, rather than accepting where he's allocated on geography alone. That so-called 'choice' is part of labour's policy on education, is it not? The fact that the a large proportion of parents cannot get their children into the school of their first choice due to massive over-subscription, and ultimately some admissions criteria need to be applied, leaving many people disappointed, is neither here nor there really, is it? We still all try our luck regardless, so why shouldn't he? What's he supposed to do - send his child to a crap inner city dump with 'challenges' just to make the rest of us feel better? Of course if he'd been PM for the last ten years then that's exactly what he should do, but if Tony Blair didn't chance it, I can't see DC volunteering.

TheChangeSpiral · 16/04/2010 15:04

NC was the only one who came across with any authenticity whatsoever last night. The only one who seemed like a real person, rather than a mechanical politi-bot. Aside from that his policies were the only ones not rooted in fear (DC) or fantasy (GB).

GB did much better than I expected but ultimately we can't believe someone's promises when they've had 13 years to implement them and done nothing. And what was with the pink tie? Are they worried red would clash with his ears?

DC proved himself to be a truly vile individual last night and looking at his punchable face was almost more than I could bear on top of morning sickness. Him and his reverse Robin Hood steal-from-the-poor-to-give-the-rich Eton cronies prey on people's fears and bring out the worst side of humanity.

Jasmataz · 16/04/2010 15:02

Was GB chewing gum, he seemed to have a problem with his jaw which was very offputting?

Molesworth · 16/04/2010 14:56

FFS

poor show from Fatty Barlow

hybred77 · 16/04/2010 14:55

forget GB or NC getting a look in now, look who DC has got on his side www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7597261/General-Election-2010-Gary-Barlow-unveiled-as- David-Cameron-backer.html

amicissima · 16/04/2010 14:55

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Madsometimes · 16/04/2010 14:44

NC won yesterday IMO. However, dh who will be voting Conservative thought that DC was the most convincing. As they said on radio 4, most people who have a strong political conviction thought their own man won!

I'm a floating voter, and cannot make my mind up between Lib Dems and Tory. I am more of a liberal, but am also concerned that the lib dems are moving too far from their liberal roots. I am pro free trade, pro Europe and anti ID cards, databases and big state (but pro NHS and state education both of which I use and are vital for everyone).

redwhiteandblue · 16/04/2010 14:22

Why is it unfair to bash DC for his school choice because TB did it? I bashed Tony in exactly the same way at the time. It is grossly hypocritical to play the system and then tell everyone what an ordinary bloke you are

And actually Gordo (of whom I'm not generally a fan) sends his dcs to a very bog-standard "state" school. He could send them to a closer faith school, as he is obviously a genuine Christian, but has chosen not to, which ime is just masochism. But all credit to him for being the only one not to bring his kiddywinks into the debate at all

FRWL · 16/04/2010 14:12

NIck Clegg has won the debate - but Dave Cameron will make a better PM for sure. Gordon Brown is genuine and a good economist - but a not-good-enough PM - he should have never taken the job...

TiggyR · 16/04/2010 14:07

I'd be interested to see if David Cameron would be so keen to send his children to state school if it had to be in an average neighbourhood in an average town. Well, of course he wouldn't, but then I doubt Gordon would either. But he can't sent them to Eton, can he now? That would be political suicide. But to bash him for his cosy choice is unfair - he's no different to Tony Blair in that regard.

He did keep having to mention it though, didn't he? The Etonian Toff thing is a real thorn in his side. I was waiting for him to say 'Did I mention we took the kiddiewinks to Maccy D's last week? Did I mention my wife reads Take A Break?'

gramercy · 16/04/2010 14:02

Our LibDem MP owns SEVEN homes. No wonder he supports more housebuilding.

cinnamontoast · 16/04/2010 13:59

Nick Clegg is an atheist but his wife is a Catholic, hence the schooling decision.

TiggyR · 16/04/2010 13:59

Yes, all soldiers were brave, and all nurses were angels, carers were unsung heros and heroines.

I particularly liked Nick Clegg's comment on needing smaller class sizes, because teachers are so busy keeping an eye on the disruptive and poorly disciplined pupils that they can't give the 'bright' children the attention they deserve!

gramercy · 16/04/2010 13:58

Nick Clegg was educated at Westminster and then went to Cambridge. So he's absolutely one of us, right?

His children go to a Catholic school in London. He has said he's an atheist, but it was ok to go with a religious school when it suited him. Furthermore, he has not ruled out paying for his kids' secondary education.

cinnamontoast · 16/04/2010 13:57

And preferably with some sincerity, rather than just paying lip service. They just sounded like the tabloids.

CaveMum · 16/04/2010 13:55

Of course it was mechanical, but it needs to be said and often.

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