Zelensky visiting ❤

Have you not seen Russia targetting civilian structures such as shopping centres?

Do you think it would be safe to hold elections and large groups of people gathering?

Putin is a dick.

Zelensky is a diamond.

Deluded, he's wealthy in his own right and he hasn't benefitted financially from this war at all. Where did you find this information.

Only people that have done well are arms dealers and oil tycoons....most of which are Russian.

The Pandora Papers don’t paint him in a good light. He’s not exactly someone that you could trust with billions of dollars, especially with all of his offshore accounts he tried to hide.

Hello, return of the Russian bot! 👋 No one believes you!
We LOVE Zelenskyy! 😂

Why is it that on MN anyone who dares have a different opinion on politics to anyone left leaning is a Russian bot? Anyway I thought the Russian bots were virtually non existent after the attack on the Russian data centres yet apparently here we are 💁‍♀️ 👋🏼

I know some people want to put Zelensky on a pedestal but maybe if they took the time to do some critical thinking they’d see he’s far from perfect.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

So your argument is that Zelensky faked the invasion of Ukraine to distract from a 2021 newspaper article ?

Would Putin sympathiser suit you better @moonraker0 ?

Yes he does but those papers include all manner of leaders. Wealthy people have offered shore accounts.

Is Putin honest? Was he mentioned in your Pandora papers.

The man is fighting for his country, and losing good men and woman daily. Its despicable how he was spoken to in the white house. Sadly many posters here have similar views. There for the grace of God..

And you can see that in his face, it's aged him. People seem to forget that we did pledge to protect the Ukraine and really we should have made sure Russia didn't cross the border in the first place.

I've always maintained that we should have done more before the war started to put Putin off his ambitions. Had we done that the war in my opinion would never have happened. We could see the build of his military on the borders why on earth did we stand by and let the conflict unfold. Millions have been lost on both sides it's utterly tragic. A Russian recruit deployed on the front line has a life expectancy of just 20 seconds, how anyone can think Putin is winning is beyond me. Putin cares nothing about the men being lost or the civilians being killed. Zelensky on the other hand cares deeply about the cost this war is having on his country and it's people.

We should not be standing by and watching this from the spectator stands we need to end this war and end it quickly. It's not enough to fund a conflict and watch people die if we truly believe that Putin should be stopped. Putin blames the west for the war then at the very least we should meet him on the front line and show him the resolve of the west to protect our values. Putin knows Europe would defeat Russia in 7 days.

You don’t have to put him on a pedestal to see Zelenskyy is a decent man doing his utmost for his country.

Yes agreed.

Doubt he is without fault but overall he seems decent and doing a good job for Ukraine.

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Indeed. The UK could spend the money saved on defending against Russian attacks.

That’s exactly where it’s going. Ukraine is holding Russia off Europe’s doorstep.

Why shouldn't the UK and other European countries help Ukraine financially? Especially now the US is lifting sanctions on Russia

Quite. The hero worship is insane.

What would you like Zelenskyy to do? Give in to Putin and Trump?

If you look into it Zelensky is likely totally corrupt, with a large amount of the billions of aid money gone missing, and seemingly an increasing personal fortune for himself and his cronies. An estimated 3 million men now dead or crippled on both sides and still we insist on prolonging this slaughter (proxy war) that can never be won by Ukraine by funding it here in the West. We are simply funding ongoing death and destruction. A very profitable business to be in apparently.

George Galloway tells it like it is:

The reason Russia invaded Eastern Ukraine was to protect the Russian speaking population there from persecution and ethnic cleansing by an increasingly corrupt Ukrainian government after the overthrow of the previous Ukranian government with assistance from the USA in 2014. And also to counter a threat from an expansionist NATO, with an alleged violation of the Minsk agreement.

Ukraine was/is one of the most corrupt nations on the planet, and those hailing Zelensky as some sort of god, really do need to look at some alternate and more balanced sources for their news.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

I really don’t think Ukraine and Zelensky are fighting for anyone bar Ukraine. It is no longer a Cold War front line, and I don’t think Putin has any illusions of going any further west than the Polish border. Right now, he would gladly settle for the Donbas and lick his wounds.

Ukraine has fought, with the aid of the U.S (and some cash from the big talking but little risking EU and UK), both creatively and heroically.

I think Zelensky was quite corrupt before the war, but I do think that he has been quite a heroic war leader, albeit lacking the diplomatic skills to keep a truculent U.S onside.

However, realistically, it is now time to settle and both sides have to be realistic. Will Putin profit from his aggression? Yes, although it has cost him a lot of blood and treasure.

Endlessly extending a stalemate isn’t of any use to anyone.

Putin could stop it tomorrow.

Exactly.

As for keeping the US onside, Trump has signed an executive order waiving Russian sanctions.

Blue-pilled?