Luxury cars removed from the motability scheme

‘Would you rather be disabled? Is the conversation equivalent of stamping your feet and screaming when you have run out of reasonable arguments. Grow up.

‘Would you rather be disabled? Is the conversation equivalent of stamping your feet and screaming when you have run out of reasonable arguments. Grow up.

I have a significant physical disability. I think that allows me to "shoot my mouth off".

It’s perfectly legitimate when that particular poster has talked about disabled people’s ’better standard of life’ and exhibited barely concealed jealousy that they get something she can’t

If I say I cannot follow an unfamiliar route without help could I get a motablity car? I would be telling the truth, I am rubbish and have no sense of direction. There is nothing wrong with me by the way. I probably do have a touch of ADHD but then don't we all, I have never gamed the system and been a benefit scrounge, but if that is all that is required to get 12 points then it is no wonder that the benefits bill is out of control.

I don’t care if they individually fund the difference in the deposit.

They get a much, much lower (and to them, free!) lease. They get insurance, repairs and maintenance paid for. All things ordinary working people don’t get. I work full time and can’t afford any car. Let alone a Mercedes or BMW. If I were to post and say that on here I would be destroyed. I have been destroyed. I’ve been told that I’m a leach and a parasite for living at home as an adult. Yet people who get luxury cars vis the taxpayer are fine? Makes sense

Nobody ‘deserves’ anything.
If you can afford a Mercedes -great -buy one and find it yourself.
If you can’t -simple transport system to get people to hospital appointments - much cheaper than providing a car for the rellies to use 95% of the time it isn’t needed for ‘appointments’

It’s a valid argument when we’re talking about the experience of GENUINELY disabled people facing having a scheme originally intended to keep them mobile and included in society taken away because non disabled people have no fucking idea of what lack of mobility means to someone disabled.

Then why are so many up in arms saying disabled people deserve this luxury?

Nope. Sick of taxpayers being bled dry for shit like a Merc.

It isn’t really when it’s a hypothetical thought experiment that has no bearing on reality.Her answer doesn’t change a thing, regardless of what it is. It’s just yet more emotional blackmail which is not helpful and not what we should base decisions regarding provision and spending upon.

Nope. Sick of taxpayers being bled dry for shit like a Merc.

Nope. Sick of taxpayers being bled dry for shit like a Merc.

How about trips out that aren't for hospital visits? Going to and from work, perhaps, or even (Heaven forfend!) going out on social occasions sometimes?

A few years back, the then government cut the criteria for PIP HRM from being able to reliably walk 50m down to 20m. A large number of people lost their PIP award and, therefore, their Motability car as a result. A great many of these had relied on the car to enable them to work.

I remember hearing of one woman, but she will have been one of many, who was given support from Access to Work, to allow her to continue in employment. They agreed to pay for a taxi to and from work. This cost about the same, per day, as her Motability car had cost per week, while giving her far less in the way of independence as, of course, it only allowed for trips to and from work.

If we were in a Utopia where everyone could have anything they desire and cost no object, yes have your Mercedes van for jaunts.
We aren’t.
If you can’t pay for that - the reality is that you can’t expect someobe else to
to pay it for you.

The person pays the difference to have a more luxury car- if you are still not understanding this after all the pages of people trying to explain a pretty simple system, have you considered applying for PIP yourself?

You're missing the point. They shouldn't have been giving out luxury cars AT ALL!!! If you require a car because you are disabled there should be basic cars available - nothing fancy or flash or luxurious - just safe and reliable and inexpensive. There are plenty of cars that fit that description.

Utter bollocks.

You post is incredibly ignorant.

My mam was a full time worker (and all the overtime, gave her bloody life to work) who worked her ass off to a very high position from absoloutely nothing. She then got sick as the result of others actions (through no fault of her own, as priven by long investigations) and received a huge workers comp and insurance payouts based on her past work records, promotions and work ethic that would serve to replace the remaining life time of work that she could no long do due to complete loss of mobility.

Her specially built 'luxury' motability car was bought entirely with HER pay out, nothing to do with 'benefits' or 'not working' at all.

Motability aren't buying people free luxuary cars, anyone that thinks that must be hard of critical thinking. Just because someone is disabled it doesn't mean they are poor or unemployed. Motability is a tax exemption for those who need cars for mobility because they have a disability of mobility (thus equivilent to you being able to walk for free). The cars however are bought by the owner of the car.

For people saying a 'fancy car is a luxury', you are aware very few car companies build special ability cars. You can't just go buy any cheap car and magically make them disabled accessible, they are custom built from scratch and mostly only expensive companies offered that service. People aren't driving this expensive bricks as a flex, its not a Mustang or Aston Martin DB9, it has the sex appeal and speed of a nokia 3310 ffs if it wasn't for the 'luxury' name badge you would would think nothing of them other than boxy van like people carrier.