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Milibrand will be released today! Sensation of the campaign!

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claig · 29/04/2015 06:42

Russell Brand will release the full video of Milibrand today. Fantastic stuff.

Forget Dimbleby, forget Evan Davis and even forget Kay Burley, Russell Brand is the real deal. He is the one we want to watch (apart from Farage).

The trailer shows what we are likely to get - more mockney than in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels of Monkeys. Miliband looks like he no longer gives a monkeys, he's going flat out for it. His Oxbridge teenage advisers must have told him to watch the "characters" in Albert Square and make sure he drops as many aitches as he can, the public's "gotta" be done up like a kipper. There are more hand movements and "hell yeah" grimaces than Joe Pesci on steroids in Goodfellas, but these fellas ain't good, they're "bloody lively".

Ed is about to explain it to Russell and fortunately Russell stops him short and says let me say it in my own words, that'll be better. Better than predistribution, than predatry capitalism, than endogeneous growth theory? It doesn't get much better than that.

Can't wait for the full 20 minute video to be released. Forget the Labour Party political broadcasts with the usual list of luvvies, this is Russell Brand - a luvvie who still has some street cred - and the Oxford PPE egghead known as Red Ed. Will this finally put the election to bed?

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Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 14:41

And Russell Brand should be voting Conservative as well.

*As if Russell is anti corporate tax avoidance, anti bank bailout, anti RBS, well looking at the record of the past Labour Treasury 'dream team' of Brown/Miliband/Balls - Cameron has done more in 5-years than Labour did in 13-years.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2366971-The-Russell-Brand-vs-Ed-Miliband-fireside-interview-clip

Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 14:33

'Wolfie', is that the Soviet Republic People's Army? lol

The Conservatives have a record of picking up a car crash of an economy from Labour, and handing back the keys when the UK had either fixed the UK economy or it was on its way back, growing faster than Europe - what record does UKIP have?

  • A 2010 General Election Farage called "drivel" so no solutions over the past parliament there.
  • With no UKIP policies to stand by (other than the EU and immigration) we've had 5-years of Farage 'pick n mixing' populist policies between the 3-main parties for cheap votes e.g. in 2010 UKIP wanted to electrify 3 train lines, yet oppose the Conservatives High Speed 2,3.4 etc,train line to go up to Scotland - connecting the north adding infrastucture in addition to helping businesses up there with other measures, to close the gap with the south.
  • A 2015 Manifesto spending commitment heavily paid for by money when LEAVING the EU (when?), relying on a Conservative administration to deliver it - that can't happen as UKIP takes more votes from the Conservatives, so ultra pro Labour and SNP will be the first and third largest parties in Westminster. Duh.

UKIP is still the 'party of protest' once the LIb Dems were in government, but unless protesting against Labour, you should get that old blue rosette out to get an EU Referendum and some chance to negotiate the EU open borders - as how the feck will a 2-10 UKIP MPs in Westminster introduce 'an Australian points system', when the UK is still IN the EU?

claig · 05/05/2015 11:52

'I’m a Conservative voter and proud, what are you?'

Why are you proud? Are you stupid?

I'm People's Army

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Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 11:50

Claig …. The far right UKIP anti bourgeoisie class warrior, you really are an enigma, with so many political layers you almost remind me of a Russian Doll.

Let’s look at each ‘compartment’, based on both your activities and what you have told the Mumsnet Board since I’ve been posted.

Claig; Through The (Political) Key Hole.

Claig Room 1: An ex Conservative voter (when the party had no commonly perceived class bias?) and avid reader of The Daily Mail.

Claig Room 2: Totally against all of the UK political classes, wealth and privileges, suggesting that Farage was above that, yet if Farage tried to be a Conservative MP 6-times before – one should assume that he is GAGGING to join the ‘Westminster elite’.

Claig Room 3: A supposed far right UKIP voter, with an unswerving admiration for Farage, bordering on a cult obsession - the son of a stockbroker, educated privately and ex City Commodity Dealer whose career was speculating on the price of oil and other commodities.

Claig Room 4: Use any UKIP/Farage comments admiring Russia, or other thread e.g. Ukraine, to take Russia/Putin’s side against the West and diss the EU.

Claig Room 4: A poster that used to write at least 100 posts a day across numerous threads - often using your own opinions, as a platform to post MORE questions/answers - seemingly going for ‘quantity over quality’.

Claig Room 5: No Humour, I have joked with you that you must have had the (humour) by-pass operation, and even called you Comrade or ‘Wolfie’ from the old TV series ‘Citizen Smith’, representing the ‘Tooting Popular Front’ for your similar class rants to his.

Well none of it seemed to add up until I saw the following explaining everything and stitches you up like a U-kipper; Claig’s Home Revealed:

Putin's army of pro-Kremlin bloggers
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/revealed-putins-army-of-prokremlin-bloggers-10138893.html

”Hundreds of workers are paid around £500 a month and required to write at least 135 comments per day - or face immediate dismissal”

”There are teams dedicated to Facebook and other social media. “There are about 40 rooms with about 20 people sitting in each, and each person has their assignments. They write and write all day, and it’s no laughing matter - you can get fired for laughing.”

Based on their record vs Labour, and the only main party ability to deliver most of what Farage wants, I’m a Conservative voter and proud, what are you? lol

claig · 05/05/2015 11:43

Ed turns up at a stonemason's and asks for a quote for a huge slab of rock that weighs about one ton

Ed: "I say my good man, how much will it cost fo a huge rock weighing about a ton?"

Stonemason: "You're 'aving a laugh, aren't ya?"

Ed: "I most certainly am not. I'm from Oxford, I'll have you know. I've got a PPE. We all have, the entire team I am with today"

Stonemason: "PPE? You better get that seen to. That doesn't sound too good and by the way you're struggling with that bacon sandwich, it looks like you need all the help you can get"

Ed: "I say, can we cut the banter and cut to the chase. What will this rock cost the Labour Party? You gotta do it."

Stonemason: "Phew, um, cost ya, cost ya, bish bosh, loadsamoney"

Ed: "Money is no object, my good man. We're from Oxbridge and were once in charge of the nation's finances. We know how to run an economy and an election campaign. We're PPEs."

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claig · 05/05/2015 11:26

This gets better all the time. This Edstone is straight out of W1A and the Daily Mail while penning serious articles on the matter is having a right laugh.

"Experts said the limestone slab was likely to have cost tens of thousands of pounds, taken several weeks to produce and weigh in excess of one ton.

Steve Walley, managing director of London Stone, said: ‘That will not be cheap. It looks to me like Portland limestone. We’re talking thousands of pounds just for the materials. What’s he going to do with it if he doesn’t get into No 10?’

Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

‘You’ve got to find a competent stone carver to get all the words done properly.

‘There are not a lot of good stonemasons around of that quality, and the best ones charge on a “sky’s the limit” basis.’

Labour aides refused to discuss the cost of the carving, where it is being stored or suggestions that it was the brainchild of one of Mr Miliband’s senior aides, Torsten Bell.

John Rentoul, Tony Blair’s biographer, said: ‘Ed Miliband must have agreed to it. I think it’s the most absurd, embarrassing, childish, silly, patronising, ridiculous gimmick I have ever seen.’

London Mayor Boris Johnson described the monument as ‘some weird Commie slab’.

‘In true totalitarian fashion, he has signed it himself, and appended the red-rose Socialist logo of the Labour Party,’ he said.

‘Let us consign Milibandias and his tombstone to the bafflement of future archaeologists. Let it go down as the last act of a desperate candidate, and the heaviest suicide note in history.’

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068029/Labour-wasted-tens-thousands-ridiculed-Milistone-Party-leader-defends-monument-plans-Cameron-vows-make-tombstone-Labour.html

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claig · 05/05/2015 11:16

Who is responsible for the Edstone? Which adviser could come up with such a W1A idea?

The Daily Mail is suggesting it may be the follwoing person

"His speaking up for the hubristic monument is the very least he could have done considering that Miliband’s too-clever-by-half policy director, Torsten Henricson-Bell, has been widely blamed for the idea."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068112/ANDREW-PIERCE-stories-spin-doctors-DON-T-want-read.html

I knew it before I even googled him - he is an Oxfor PPE 1st class Grin

They all are, our metropolitan elite. You couldn't make it up. Even the script writers in W1A couldn't make up our political class. The game is too much of a laugh.

"Torsten Henricson Bell, strategist

A former advisor to Alastair Darling, he is ‘terrifyingly bright’ but ‘totally devoid of any politics’, according to one MP. ‘Every shadow cabinet member he sits down with comes away thinking he’s just met an ideological soul mate.’

www.spectator.co.uk/features/9191741/meet-team-miliband/

I don't know about the bright bit, but this W1A stuff is absolutely terrifying. Are we run by clowns from Oxbridge - first class?

"One problem for Miliband is both Henricson Bell and Beales are currently looking for safe seats at the upcoming election. ‘That tells you all you need to know about what they think of Ed’s chances,’ said a shadow cabinet member."

Gawd help us. I can't stand the laughs, it's doing my Ed in.

Vote UKIP, vote People's Army, let's get back to some first class common sense!

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claig · 05/05/2015 10:53

Here is the left winger Piers Morgan missing the real point about Brand. Brand is not a joke, he is funny. The real joke is the metropolitan elite Establishment, the Oxbridge labour hierarchy, the BBC, the Guardian, the New Statesman and our Oxbridge left wing intelligentsia who thought the people were so stupid that they would fall for the luvvies. The BBC promoted Brand with our taxpayer money, they thought they could stop the People's Army but the polling figures have not budged at all. Farage has said he would like to "cut the BBC to the bone". There is panic in W1A.

"Should we let hypocritical clowns like Brand and Coogan tell us how to vote? Don't make me laugh

"Ché Brand's been exposed as a total fraud, someone whose 'Revolution' was built purely on a plinth of self-publicity designed to make him even more famous and wealthy. And whose own vote, it turns out, can be easily bought with a cheesy grin, a few cliché-d platitudes and a prime time photo-op.

I don't blame Miliband for trotting down to see Brand for an interview that has already been seen by millions of people. That was smart politics, because Brand has a lot of impressionable young followers.

But I hope those impressionable young followers now see their idol for the shallow waste of political and ideological space that he truly is.

Brand's only saving grace is that he's not quite as bad as Steve Coogan.

I used to love Coogan's character Alan Partridge because he lampooned the very two-faced, ludicrous kind of celebrity that he's now become.

“ Like his fellow press-loathing mate Brand, Coogan preaches from the high altar of ethics and morality, whilst privately preferring to wallow in the complete opposite social strata”

I watched his new Labour Party video and literally laughed out loud.

'I'm an ordinary bloke…' he began, which is exactly what Partridge would have said when he means the complete opposite.
...
I don't agree with much that David Cameron ever says about anything. He's always struck me as the worst kind of PR-speaking, slimy creep who will say and do anything for power.

But he was right when he called Russell Brand 'a joke'.

Only the joke's on all of us.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3067485/PIERS-MORGAN-let-hypocritical-clowns-like-Brand-Coogan-tell-vote-Don-t-make-laugh.html

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claig · 05/05/2015 09:18

"He [Jacob Rees-Mogg"] was described by Camilla Long in a Sunday Times profile as "David Cameron’s worst nightmare" during the 2010 general election campaign.[17] At that election Rees-Mogg became the member of parliament for the new North East Somerset constituency with a majority of 4,914.[18] His sister, the journalist Annunziata Rees-Mogg, stood simultaneously in the neighbouring Somerton and Frome, but failed to win her seat by 1,817 votes.[5][19] The Guardian had previously criticised the damage done to the Tory message of social inclusion by the selection of two highly privileged candidates.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg

I have nothing against privilege. If Jacob Rees-Mogg is politically correct, groupthink Cameron's worst nightmare, then he must be good. I want a meritocracy where the best people rule the country and by best I mean independent, free-thinking, common sense people and they can come from Eton and Oxford as well as Toxteth or Thurrock.

'The Guardian had previously criticised the damage done to the Tory message of social inclusion by the selection of two highly privileged candidates.'

I don't wnat "messages", I don't want spin, i don't want focus groups, I don't want teenage advisers (unless they have lots of common sense), I don't want luvvies, I don't want celebs, I don't want groupthink, I don't want Edstones, I don't want "gottas", I don't want "start getting livelys", all I want is common sense and the best people for the job. That is why I want Farage for PM.

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claig · 05/05/2015 08:41

'Claig have you ever done a political spectrum quiz?
Id be interested to know where you fall.'

I did do one once. I would probably be a combination of most of them - common sense is what I believe in.

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claig · 05/05/2015 08:35

You have to understand that I don't despise Etonians and I don't despise Oxbridge.

I think that Jacob Rees-Mogg is by far the best MP the Tories have got and he went to Eton and Oxford. He is brilliant and our ruling Oxbridge political class is useless. Why? Because he has the courage to say what he thinks and they are told what to do by teenage advisers, focus groups and Oxbridge advisers from W1A.

"Children of the sun: David Cameron, Nick Clegg and the Conservative party elite "
...
It is appropriate that Eton and Oxford, Westminster and Cambridge should feature in the CVs of Cameron and Clegg because the ancient universities and the leading public schools have played a dominant role in the history of this singular culture, forging an upper middle class from which a much smaller ruling elite could be heavily recruited."

www.theguardian.com/books/2010/oct/02/conservative-party-elites-simon-head

The reason I keep emphasizing Oxbridge and Eton is because I want to make people realise that the leadership is "recruited" from that milieu deliberately by the Establishment in order to follow what they are told by teenage advisers. The brilliant Jacob Rees-Mogg will never be promoted to a leadership position because he says what he thinks and refuses to do as he is told. He is not a safe pair of hands for the Establishment.

Why does it matter? Why not just accept what the teenage advisers from Oxbridge decide for us? Because they are out of touch, they lack common sense, they are in thrall to a groupthink, politically correct, W1A, incompetent mentality that means they need luvvies and celebs to act as intermediaries with the people, they need Eddie Izzard or Steve Coogan or Jo Brand or Russell Brand to talk to us. They have lost over 30% of the people and they are in panic mode. They are holding W1A meetings every day and their Oxbridge teenage whizzkids from think tanks are coming out with ever more stupid policies to try and stem the flow. Now tey want the Estone planted in the garden of Number Ten. It is surreal, like something from Monty Python or W1A. What craziness, what groupthink, what teenage political correctness will they come up with if they ever hold the reins of power?

Why Farage? Because Farage is the nemesis of this W1A clique ffrom Oxbridge. He will restore common sense. As much as the groupthink geeks from Oxbridge are out of touch, they aren't so out of touch that they don't realise the threat to their Edstone folly and their "gotta" folly and their "get livelly" folly that the common sense People's Army and Farage represent. That is why they are terrified of UKIP and need celebs like Russell Brand to try and stop them.

This election is about which direction the country will follow - to W1A or on the road to common sense where the people live.

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 05/05/2015 08:29

Claig have you ever done a political spectrum quiz?
Id be interested to know where you fall.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 05/05/2015 07:31

Farage is clever and charismatic and we have seen what men like that are capable of.

Don't be fooled that UKIP are anything but the far right wing branch of the Tory party, they will mop up the votes of disillusioned tories then squeeze them into the same filthy bucket.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 05/05/2015 07:19

Farage's schooldays here

This is the man who wants to remove equality laws. Remove. Equality. Laws.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 05/05/2015 07:07

claig, you attack Oxbridge yet Farage went to Dulwich College (where he was accused of holding racist and fascist views) hardly the local comp. Look at who funds UKIP, it's packed to the rafters with the Etonians you despise.

claig · 05/05/2015 02:51

'Perhaps they're metropolitan establishment elephants?'

No, those are found on the front bench of the Labour Party.

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claig · 05/05/2015 02:49

The whole Russell Brand game is classic Oxbridge. The teenage advisers are laughing their heads off and high fiving each other like crazy shouting "Jah, we did it", "you gotta do it", they've got "euphoria". They think they've got 5 years in the bag.

But they underestimated the People's Army!

We'll see what the People's Army has to say about it on Thursday night.

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SabrinnaOfDystopia · 05/05/2015 02:45

And yet they did vote as they did claig. You can't just ignore it.

They voted for what they voted for because they're callous bastards, they have shares in the ivory trade, because they're cruel unthinking bastards, they are in some way financially involved with the ivory trade, or they're unthinking, uncaring bastards with no care in conservation of endangered, beautiful animals, or they're purely just unthinking, or they're just uncaring. Or they hate just elephants. Or they love ivory.

You take your pick.

Elephants aren't generally "UK citizens" - perhaps that's the problem?

Perhaps they're metropolitan establishment elephants?

claig · 05/05/2015 02:38

'Do you have any insight as to why they endorse the murder of elephants for their tusks? '

I don't know what that is about and why they voted as they did.

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claig · 05/05/2015 02:35

' I think it took guts for him to u-turn and ask people to support Labour '

No. I predicted it all along. I said from the beginning why the BBC boosted him up. It was obvious what the Establishment were doing. It was entirely predicatable that he would back the Establishment.

His credibiity among the credulous is now finished. But it doesn't matter because the Establishment has achieved its purpose to get an endorsement for the Establishent just days before the election in which the People's Army threatens to cause an earthquake.

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SabrinnaOfDystopia · 05/05/2015 02:35

'Russell Brand IS the establishment weapon' could only come from a UKIPer. Russell Brand is totes Oxbridge, you're right Grin You see Russell Brand - you just think: establishment" - right ?!

But the Ukippers turning up to vote against fighting the illegal ivory trade is no Grin matter Sad and just makes the argument - UKIP are bastards.

GatoradeMeBitch · 05/05/2015 02:33

The real revolution is the people's one, the people who are mocked and called "fruitcakes" by all of the Establishment who fear their whole game will be up

I guess you're still on about UKIP there right? Do you have any insight as to why they endorse the murder of elephants for their tusks? Of all the MEP's, over 600 I believe, only 14 voted against cracking down on the ivory trade, and UKIP were 6 of the 14. Why do they hate elephants? That's not very 'common man' is it?

GatoradeMeBitch · 05/05/2015 02:30

I've watched Brand's videos. I think it took guts for him to u-turn and ask people to support Labour after he went on about not voting for ages, even based a book on it! He knew it would make him a laughing stock in some quarters but admitting you made a mistake is an admirable quality in a public personality. And if it gets more people out voting (whoever they vote for) it can't be bad.

claig · 05/05/2015 02:25

'Farage is set to not even win a seat in the election according to latest polls'

Don't believe the polls. The Establishment knows all the tricks. They are trained for that.

Russell Brand called his part 2 video "Vote to start the Revolution".

I think he is the Establishment's weapon. The BBC put him on Newsnight twice and once gave him 17 minutes of the show. He is a millionaire invited into House of Commons committees and makes programmes on drugs for the BBC which please the elite. He is in with them. I think they used him to create an "anti-establishment" counter to the real anti-establishment Farage.

He said "don't vote" and the Establishment all feigned shock and said how dare he, but I think they knew all along that he would eventually say vote Labour, vote Establishment.

His "revolution" is an act, it is not real, it endorses Oxbridge PPE, Miliband.

The real revolution is the people's one, the people who are mocked and called "fruitcakes" by all of the Establishment who fear their whole game will be up.

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GatoradeMeBitch · 05/05/2015 02:21

Farage IS the Establishment. And if UKIP ever get a proper foothold in government I think people will realize that very quickly. It's easy to promise the earth when you don't have to deliver.

The few UKIP MEPs have been lazy bastards who only turned up to one vote - the one where all 6 UKIP MEP's voted AGAINST fighting the illegal ivory trade. What was that about? The 'Party of the People', and the only thing that has officially got them interested so far is the prospect of the ivory trade being shut down... I think their supporters have some major shocks coming.