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Shadow Chancellor Not Up To The Job

109 replies

Chil1234 · 11/01/2011 14:43

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/8249198/Alan-Johnson-struggles-over-National-Insurance-rates-on-live-television.html Johnson Confusion

You'd think, as the Shadow Chancellor, Alan Johnson would be up to speed on something as basic as employers' NI contributions. His stage persona of 'honest bloke who knows nothing about economics' is wearing very thin already and not reflecting well on Miliband's judgement. Cooper and Balls must be seething.

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LadyBlaBlah · 20/01/2011 22:36

They are saying on the 10 o clock show thing (jury is out on that) that it was his wife having an affair, not him. Apparently with his bodyguard

Its just like Bodyguard the movie

Deciduousblonde · 20/01/2011 22:34

I can't be the only one appalled that a chancellor would know so little about NI rates.

Mind you, my dear grandad once said that only in Government would you find so many people doing a job they aren't actually qualified to do!

newwave · 20/01/2011 22:21

LFN, to true Balls is a nasty peice of work which is in his favour, he will get under Gideons skin. As for not being liked i am not so sure that is true, not liked by the Blairites maybe. A lot to look forward to.

LadyBlaBlah · 20/01/2011 22:21

If you mean that he denies that the deficit was purely caused by Gordon Brown, then yes he is a deficit denier.

Balls, like most sensible people, think the deficit was caused by multiple factors.

CrosswordAddict · 20/01/2011 22:17

Sorry, have just read Guido Fawkes, so now I catch your drift. Cherchez la femme (or l'homme in this case) as the French put it so well.

longfingernails · 20/01/2011 22:15

Balls is dangerous because he is such a natural at Opposition, and he isn't afraid to knife anyone, using the dirtiest of dirty tactics - as we saw with his continuing friendship with Damian McBride and Charlie Whelan, his part in the downfall of Tony Blair, and of course his part in ousting Alan Johnson. This same malicious streak is also a massive liability for Labour though, because no-one, even within that party, actually likes him.

He also has the distinction of being one of the main authors of Gordon Brown's disastrous economics - and he won't be allowed to forget it.

Labour have been deficit deniers for ages now - but at least some of the more Blairite ones gave the pretence of caring. Balls wants more borrowing, more taxes, more spending. He is about as pure a deficit denier as they come.

So there are both dangers and opportunities for the coalition. We live in interesting times.

newwave · 20/01/2011 22:07

"He was Browns top aide and advisor and helped cause the economic problems that we have at the moment."

The banks caused the economic problems not Labour, it wasnt the Labour party selling sub prime mortgages, what labour did wrong was not to regulate the banks properly (just like the Tories are still not doing)

Bonuses all round anyone.

Balls will wipe the floor with Gideon just as he did with Gove

CrosswordAddict · 20/01/2011 22:04

Am I missing something here? Obviously most of you know something I don't! (To save me buying the Sun tomorrow) Will someone just spill the beans? PLEASE

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 20/01/2011 22:03

Postman Pat was not the person to shadow the treasury. Nice bloke, just not bright enough. Balls has balls and should give Georgie a run for his money. So two top Shadow jobs to a husband and wife team now.

huddspur · 20/01/2011 21:59

I like Alan Johnson and I think frontline politics will suffer from his absence. However I don't think Balls is a very good replacement, he was Browns top aide and advisor and helped cause the economic problems that we have at the moment.

claig · 20/01/2011 21:54

Yes, Balls is good. He is half sincere, which is far more than the rest of the progressive team.

newwave · 20/01/2011 21:53

Great news, Balls will wipe the floor with Gideon just as he used to with Gove.

LadyBlaBlah · 20/01/2011 21:50

Yes, I never thought he looked good

He was just a nice guy. And now he's not even that it seems

kerstina · 20/01/2011 21:45

Still like and respect Alan Johnson and think he would have made a good leader .It makes sense why he did not run for it if it is true. Balls is not going to give up easily is he ? Probably still got his sights on Eds job.

claig · 20/01/2011 21:44

'Rumour had it whilst he was in the Cabinet that he always made sure he had a great team behind him, and that's what made him look good.'

I never thought he looked good. I think they'd better sack the team behind him; they weren't up to it either.

Mumsnut · 20/01/2011 21:43

All in The Sun tomorrow, apparently.

claig · 20/01/2011 21:42

LadyBlaBlah, absolutely. The party of integrity, rectitude, standards and honour. They truly deserve the moniker Right Honourable Members, unlike some of those other Honeckers.

apparently all of Westminster knew about Johnson, but they didn't tell the proles.

WonderingStar · 20/01/2011 21:41

whatever the "personal" reason behind AJ going - he was never the right man for the job. Rumour had it whilst he was in the Cabinet that he always made sure he had a great team behind him, and that's what made him look good. I don't think he's ever been fully up to any of these heavyweight jobs, and the Shadow Chancellor portfolio proved to be just too much weight (and he will have far less of a team behind him in Opposition of course).

longfingernails · 20/01/2011 21:39

It seems the Damian McBride element lives on. Ed Balls' camp seems to have leaked this - and I bet Alan Johnson won't let him forget it.

Alan Johnson was the wrong choice all along - he was nice but dim. But the circumstances of his knifing might make him a perennial thorn in Red Ed's side.

Not to mention - with Balls as shadow Chancellor, Labour are no doubt going to abandon deficit reduction entirely. They are going to go for the borrow and spend magic money approach.

Are there any Blairites left at all in the Shadow Cabinet ?

LadyBlaBlah · 20/01/2011 21:30

lol claig - yes, that party of integrity

But who knew old Alan was a go-er eh?

Alouiseg · 20/01/2011 21:28

Balls in, Johnson out. Fnaar Wink

claig · 20/01/2011 21:24

that's why I vote Tory

freshmint · 20/01/2011 21:23

damn I'm always 7 minutes behind the times!

sorry folks

crosspost

freshmint · 20/01/2011 21:22

according to guido fawkes, johnson is having an affair with a civil servant and ed balls leaked it to the papers to get his job

bastard balls

well bastard johnson too

they are all bastards!

claig · 20/01/2011 21:17

thanks Alouiseg, I forgot about Guido. They always know what's up. But the politically correct should be prepared to be scandalised by Guido.

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