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Core maths with only grade 6

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makemineadecaf · 22/08/2026 09:48

I’m hoping @noblegiraffeor anyone else in the know can help here. Dd is doing all essay based alevels (gcse 8s/9s) but at her school sixth form they also do epq or core maths.

Essays are her strength so epq seems obvious but I’m worried about burn out. The work load and content of core maths seems less intense but with only a 6 I’m worried she’ll be on the back foot.

Edited to add that I think core maths is worth less ucas points than epq?

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noblegiraffe · 27/08/2026 16:02

spritzwiththat · 27/08/2026 15:40

Resit would be because quite a few apprenticeships, internships and also business type uni courses require 7+ gcse. Core maths presume would equate?

I don't know. York, for example, say 'Grade 7 maths GCSE essential if you don't have A-level' but Exeter say 'Grade 7 maths GCSE (or AS maths, FM or Core maths). So I wouldn't want to say Core Maths would definitely count and resitting to a grade 7 would probably be 'safer'.

spritzwiththat · 27/08/2026 15:40

Resit would be because quite a few apprenticeships, internships and also business type uni courses require 7+ gcse. Core maths presume would equate?

noblegiraffe · 26/08/2026 23:40

spritzwiththat · 26/08/2026 22:42

@noblegiraffe what are your thoughts on resitting the GCSE to boost grade 6 to a 7 vs taking Core Maths with A levels.

It depends on why you want to resit the GCSE?

GCSE is a level 2 qualification and Core Maths is a level 3 so if you're looking for UCAS points or contributing to a lower UCAS offer, then Core Maths is the one to go for.

spritzwiththat · 26/08/2026 22:42

@noblegiraffe what are your thoughts on resitting the GCSE to boost grade 6 to a 7 vs taking Core Maths with A levels.

Wonderingpurple · 26/08/2026 17:07

You may already have had all the advice you need but I haven’t read the full thread!
I teach core maths and think it’s a really interesting course. We accept anyone with a grade 4 upwards but realistically only the grade 5 upwards are successful. She will be fine doing it having achieved a grade 6, it is the perfect level for her. At my school we teach 4 hours a fortnight (so 2 a week) over 2 years and they do the exam in year 13. Our partner school does it in 1 year with 7 lessons a fortnight ( but this amounts to quite a lot less teaching time).
I describe the course as ‘real world useful maths’. They learn how to calculate taxes based on salaries, how interest rates work on savings and loans, and some basic applied statistics (amongst other stuff!)

ainawatson · 26/08/2026 16:32

makemineadecaf · 25/08/2026 19:42

History, English literature, psychology and sociology

That sounds like a great combination for the EPO, especially with History and English Lit. Does she enjoy reading around subjects outside the syllabus too?

NotDonna · 26/08/2026 09:57

Ahh dropping one at half term is good. Do you know if the core maths / EPQ is over one year or two? Schools seem to vary.

makemineadecaf · 26/08/2026 09:51

NotDonna · 26/08/2026 09:48

Although essays are her strong point, doing 4 A levels is a LOT, even if only for year 12. Does she take AS levels? Core Maths will be useful for Psychology & Sociology as she’ll understand the maths involved in research methods plus everyday maths like AER/APR etc. DD2 did core maths (gcse 7) and said it wasn’t a step up at all but more like a continuation of gcse level. She’s not very mathsy but enjoyed it and found it useful for psychology. Hers was done in yr12. Although she’s an essay person she didn’t have a project in mind and I do think she’d have spent a lot of time flip flopping & changing her mind. It could be worth checking that whichever she chooses is done and dusted by year 12 for three reasons. 1) so it’s out of the way and can focus on A levels in yr13, 2) that she has the results so can target the universities that drop grades knowing her core maths / EPQ grade. 3) History has an NEA - a 4000 word research essay in yr13, which can be quite demanding.
Does she have to do 4 subjects AND core maths / EPQ?

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Thanks. Sorry if unclear - she has to start with four but drops one at half term. She’ll drop either psychology or sociology.

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NotDonna · 26/08/2026 09:48

Although essays are her strong point, doing 4 A levels is a LOT, even if only for year 12. Does she take AS levels? Core Maths will be useful for Psychology & Sociology as she’ll understand the maths involved in research methods plus everyday maths like AER/APR etc. DD2 did core maths (gcse 7) and said it wasn’t a step up at all but more like a continuation of gcse level. She’s not very mathsy but enjoyed it and found it useful for psychology. Hers was done in yr12. Although she’s an essay person she didn’t have a project in mind and I do think she’d have spent a lot of time flip flopping & changing her mind. It could be worth checking that whichever she chooses is done and dusted by year 12 for three reasons. 1) so it’s out of the way and can focus on A levels in yr13, 2) that she has the results so can target the universities that drop grades knowing her core maths / EPQ grade. 3) History has an NEA - a 4000 word research essay in yr13, which can be quite demanding.
Does she have to do 4 subjects AND core maths / EPQ?

makemineadecaf · 25/08/2026 19:42

ainawatson · 25/08/2026 18:06

Since essays are her natural strength, the EPQ gives her a huge home-field advantage. Which A-Level subjects is she taking?

History, English literature, psychology and sociology

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ainawatson · 25/08/2026 18:06

makemineadecaf · 22/08/2026 09:48

I’m hoping @noblegiraffeor anyone else in the know can help here. Dd is doing all essay based alevels (gcse 8s/9s) but at her school sixth form they also do epq or core maths.

Essays are her strength so epq seems obvious but I’m worried about burn out. The work load and content of core maths seems less intense but with only a 6 I’m worried she’ll be on the back foot.

Edited to add that I think core maths is worth less ucas points than epq?

Since essays are her natural strength, the EPQ gives her a huge home-field advantage. Which A-Level subjects is she taking?

AnnPerkins · 25/08/2026 13:05

My DS got a 6 at GCSE, lower than predicted. He had a choice between Core Maths AS in Y12 or an EPQ. He definitely didn't want to do a project so went for Core Maths and got an A.

He's really pleased he did it now as he's looking at unis that want around 120 UCAS points and he's got 20 points towards it now, or one grade drop in an A Level for another uni he's keen on. He's also very pleased to have it out of the way and no more maths lessons in Y13.

spritzwiththat · 23/08/2026 19:14

I should add already has GCSE stats at Grade 7 from year 10. Basically wasn’t well for one of the non-calc papers at GCSE which lowered overall grade

spritzwiththat · 23/08/2026 19:09

Exactly the Q I came to post! DS got a 6 lower than expected. A 6 will close doors some early careers jobs later so was wondering but whether to resit GCsE in Nov or do core maths. Econ, pol, eng at a level.

NotDonna · 23/08/2026 18:54

makemineadecaf · 23/08/2026 17:53

Ah I thought it was just a one year course. Great it’s positive at your school.

It was a one year course at DD2’s school so maybe it varies.

makemineadecaf · 23/08/2026 17:53

noblegiraffe · 23/08/2026 16:59

At my school it’s 2 hours a week over y12 and 13, no homework, we get really good results.

Ah I thought it was just a one year course. Great it’s positive at your school.

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noblegiraffe · 23/08/2026 16:59

makemineadecaf · 23/08/2026 16:04

Yes hard no for anymore maths. It’s not going to be an easy job to convince her. How many lessons a week is it? Actual alevels are 7 x 45mins.

At my school it’s 2 hours a week over y12 and 13, no homework, we get really good results.

makemineadecaf · 23/08/2026 16:04

noblegiraffe · 23/08/2026 12:13

Hard no for Core Maths?

Tell her to go to a few lessons first, it probably won’t be what she is expecting. There’s basically no algebra in it for a start, it’s very much focused on stuff she will find useful in real life (personal finances) or her studies (statistical analysis).

Yes hard no for anymore maths. It’s not going to be an easy job to convince her. How many lessons a week is it? Actual alevels are 7 x 45mins.

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noblegiraffe · 23/08/2026 12:13

makemineadecaf · 23/08/2026 09:12

That’s interesting thanks. She’s a hard no but maybe her teachers will swing her.

Hard no for Core Maths?

Tell her to go to a few lessons first, it probably won’t be what she is expecting. There’s basically no algebra in it for a start, it’s very much focused on stuff she will find useful in real life (personal finances) or her studies (statistical analysis).

Toomanyminifigs · 23/08/2026 11:46

My DS is about to start Core Maths. He got a 5 in his maths GCSE (he sat Foundation). At his 6th Form, the entry requirement for Core Maths is a 4+ so your DD should be fine.
His 6th Form insists students doing certain A levels take it if they're not doing Maths A level.
I also have some concerns about workload but I guess as it's a year course, it's out of the way before Yr13.
I also believe it's different to maths GCSE in that it's designed specifically to support A level elements like statistics which I imagine will be of help to your DD in her choices.

postitnot · 23/08/2026 10:08

My daughter is doing sociology and geography A levels and I would love her to be able to do core maths (she also got a hard won 6 in gcse). Her otherwise excellent 6th form don't offer it.

There would be a LOT of resistance on her part though!!

makemineadecaf · 23/08/2026 09:12

That’s interesting thanks. She’s a hard no but maybe her teachers will swing her.

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NotDonna · 23/08/2026 09:05

@makemineadecaf so a uni may say they want AAA but with EPQ / core maths grade A or above will drop to AAB - so the ucas points are irrelevant. As far as I’m aware they don’t drop more grade requirements if the EPQ is Astar. Also some universities (Bath & York and maybe more) drop a grade for B or above in core maths. Have a look at potential universities too.

NotDonna · 23/08/2026 09:00

makemineadecaf · 22/08/2026 16:18

Thank you yes the only difference I can see is that EPQ goes to Astar and therefore potential for more ucas points

Do not get hung up on UCAS points unless the universities she’s likely applying to use the points system. A lot of universities disregard ucas points and focus on grades only. My DD2 did core maths (history, economics & psychology were her A levels). She found it very straightforward. Both Bath uni and York dropped a grade for a B or above in core maths. They sadly don’t offer it at DD3’s school as it’d be very useful.

ConBatulations · 22/08/2026 16:52

UCAS points don't generally apply to higher tariff universities anyway.