To feel sorry for Ed Sheeran.....

So in the above scenario you hold no Palestinians responsible for Hamas actions at all? Not even the ones who are part of the Hamas terrorist group.

Such a one sided view that doesn't hold Hamas accountable at all can't be right.

Ophelia this was over 12 years ago. 12 years! He apologised for it. I’m sure in 12 years the man might have matured a little in his outlook. 12 years ago I might have gone to watch Morrisey. Wouldn’t watch him now if he was playing for free in my back garden.

How do you know what Taylor Swift, etc, etc will or won't do? Are you their agent? 😂
What are all the antisemitic rants that Macklemore has been spouting?

Which part of what Macklemore said was antisemitic?

Why should anyone be forced to give their political views in public if they are not politicians. I thought we’d got past that era when the secret ballot was introduced in 1872.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_Act_1872

Exactly

You haven't answered either of my questions mids.
No one was talking about whether stars may or may not be forthcoming in their political views. That's not what you said before. Please look at your post and my response again.
You have also been asked twice to qualify what you mean by Macklemore's antisemitic rants. Again, no response.

Maybe Sheeran should have taken a leaf out of Green Days book in the 90s. When they chose their support act to be a band called pansy division who were openly gay at a time when homophobia was huge. They were pressured by the industry and venues to drop them as a support act but Green Day refused to budge, telling venue owners that canceling the openers meant canceling Green Day. The tour went ahead with pansy division. Green Day were starting out, no where near as big or influential as Sheeran but they managed it.

That was a brave decision; I didn't know this about Green Day.
Sheeran could have definitely dealt with the situation in a better, braver way.

How do you feel about stars who have made their pro Israel views known. Do you think it's across the board that no celebrities should speak about it .

On that I agree. I feel what he could have done is publicly threatened to cancel any future collaborations with Messina to force them to resist Kraft. He made a huge mistake thinking he could just sit this out by being apolitical and Messina made a huge mistake thinking they could just drop Macklemore and the rest of the tour would carry on happily. I believe that if Messina had refused to comply with Kraft and not drop Macklemore, Kraft would have folded.

I agree.
Sheeran has not in fact been apolitical.
Always struck me as the type to jump on a trendy bandwagon.
Look at his multiple body tattoos.

Yes tattoos aren't always a look at me I'm so cool thing but in his case you can't help but think they're to make up for his extremely bland looks.

I agree but Sheeran in spite of his - or maybe because of-extremely boring music and lack of good looks and charisma had always liked to be a bit edgy to make up for it.

Well it's backfired. I've no sympathy.

You really don't know musicians. Some of the more commercial acts might comply but they're not interested in political statements and wouldn't have said anything anyway. If you think serious musicians will allow themselves to be gagged by Israel and big corporations, you're going to have a real shock. Even musicians who probably wouldn't have shown any political sympathies are going to be a lot more vocal if they sympathise with the Palestinians.The attempt to censure free speech has totally backfired!

No sympathy for Ed. He is a disgrace siding with wealthy promotors over his own friend to start off with, they have been friends for 13 years at least. Ed is a coward! The UN has stated it is a genocide so Macklemore was just declaring facts. Also when we look back in history we are always asking why didn’t people stand up and say something? Well now they are. Let’s get Macklemores single to number 1 on the iTunes chart! Adding onto this to those people that say music shouldn’t be political it always has been about messages for the people. Also actually go and listen to the speech because he said NOTHING against Jewish people he was standing up for all of humanity that is being oppressed at the moment. Ed can crawl away he is spineless.

There is nothing to stop musicians expressing deeply held views all day every day.
Hijacking a middle of the road family musical show is not necessary.
ES is recognising that this is inappropriate to the show not trying to stifle free speech.

The word Zionism has different connotations for different people. What would you call the Zionism that supports Netanyahus beliefs, that include the ethnic cleansing of gaza to another person's Zionism who doesn't support genocide or ethnic cleansing?

Is everyone avoiding the answer ? Unable to answer? ... because there isn't another definition that separates two entirely different approaches to Gaza. Slaughter Zionism vs political discourse Zionism? If there is a legitimate term that distinguishes one from the other ....if so let's use that so the gymnastics of who finds what insulting, or not, when it suits, is wholly removed.
The silence so far as been deafening.

At the risk of repeating myself ???

I don't think there is another word for it. I saw on another thread where a Jewish poster said if someone asked them if they were a zionist, they wouldn't reply with just a yes or no. As it's not as simple as that.

Arafat and his chums were expelled from Jordan for attempting a coup against the King. They then went to Lebanon and started a civil war with the Christian majority. Egypt has a big wall to keep them out. They were expelled from Kuwait in the nineties for supporting Saddam Hussein. That's the history of the Palestinians in a nutshell.

You've already been told why people don't want to engage with you, that doesn't change just because you keep going on about it.

Unfortunately, there isn't a term to separate these two groups.

Are you really that thick?

Free Iran i.e the Iranian people, from the IRGC

Surely you can't be serious, both about calling the other poster thick and then also saying that you haven't heard anybody calling to free the Iranian people from the IRGC. This was said all over the place, including on here. There were lots of daft comments on here about freeing Iranian women when the US and Israel first started the war on Iran. Although, the two situations are, of course, completely different.