UEFA have finally taken a stand

I really don't think too many care tbh. Netanyahu waning on about his spiritual mission and dreams of a Greater Israel, announcing their plans to 'bury' the idea of a Palestinian state apparently to show their European allies who is boss.

Even if they give a mealy mouthed apology it changes nothing. The majority of people still think the Israeli government and the IDF are a bunch of child killing land grabbers and will keep campaigning until they are persona non grata in Europe.

I really don't think too many care tbh. Netanyahu waning on about his spiritual mission and dreams of a Greater Israel, announcing their plans to 'bury' the idea of a Palestinian state apparently to show their European allies who is boss.

Even if they give a mealy mouthed apology it changes nothing. The majority of people still think the Israeli government and the IDF are a bunch of child killing land grabbers and will keep campaigning until they are persona non grata in Europe.

Court of public opinion seems to be nutters on X and Jeremy Bowen.

Come now, don’t be sorry.

UEFA has breached its own rules and regs - it has taken a position. Now it must own it. That will not play out well with stakeholders, including some of the FA’s, the Clubs, the advertisers, the sponsors, the players, and the fans.

To think otherwise is plain naive.

Even if you wish it wasn’t so.

“The court of public opinion”.

Which jurisdiction is that? MN? The Guardian? The BBC?

You do realise that Moscow, Beijing and Tehran are fermenting a lot of the unrest dont you?

I don’t think you realise that the court of public opinion is very much against Israel’s actions.

I don’t think you realise that the court of public opinion is very much against Israel’s actions.

Stripes56
They could have done - but this message was prompted by the anger related to the killing of a footballer

A former Israeli footballer was murdered by Hamas on October 7 - celebrating his 43rd birthday, so a very similar age to the Palestinian footballer (41);

11 October 2023
In a 142-word statement from European football's governing body postponing Israel's upcoming matches there was a glaring omission.

It did reference the "current security situation in Israel".

But at that point - 36 hours after the surprise Hamas attack on Israel - UEFA omitted any reference to the hundreds killed in Israel or condolences to its member nation reeling from an unprecedented massacre.

A nation hosting the UEFA under-19 European championship in 2027.

A nation whose football community is mourning the death of a former player Lior Asulin - murdered by Hamas gunmen at the music festival close to the Gaza border.

By contrast, UEFA took only a few hours last month to announce on a non-member nation: "Victims of the tragic earthquake in Morocco to be remembered at all upcoming national team and club competition matches."

In 2016, condolences were swiftly sent to France after UEFA said it was "deeply saddened by the terrorist attack which occurred in Nice"...

https://news.sky.com/story/footballs-mute-response-to-israel-hamas-war-reveals-complex-relationship-with-conflict-and-tragedy-12981660

I’m sorry but they won’t. The tide has turned.

I’m sorry but they won’t. The tide has turned.

Stripes56
They could have done - but this message was prompted by the anger related to the killing of a footballer

A former Israeli footballer was murdered by Hamas on October 7 - celebrating his 43rd birthday, so a very similar age to the Palestinian footballer (41);

11 October 2023
In a 142-word statement from European football's governing body postponing Israel's upcoming matches there was a glaring omission.

It did reference the "current security situation in Israel".

But at that point - 36 hours after the surprise Hamas attack on Israel - UEFA omitted any reference to the hundreds killed in Israel or condolences to its member nation reeling from an unprecedented massacre.

A nation hosting the UEFA under-19 European championship in 2027.

A nation whose football community is mourning the death of a former player Lior Asulin - murdered by Hamas gunmen at the music festival close to the Gaza border.

By contrast, UEFA took only a few hours last month to announce on a non-member nation: "Victims of the tragic earthquake in Morocco to be remembered at all upcoming national team and club competition matches."

In 2016, condolences were swiftly sent to France after UEFA said it was "deeply saddened by the terrorist attack which occurred in Nice"...

https://news.sky.com/story/footballs-mute-response-to-israel-hamas-war-reveals-complex-relationship-with-conflict-and-tragedy-12981660

Football fans aren't interested in political messages. They didnt take too kindly to the bending of the knee a few years back. I'm sure the Spurs fans really loved looking at the advertising campaign slogan. Propaganda has now become commercialised.

From UEFA’s own Safety & Security Regs.

Article 44 Political action

44.01
The promotion or announcement, by any means, of political messages or of any other political actions inside or in the immediate vicinity of the stadium is strictly prohibited before, during and after the match.

Rank hypocrisy….

No - I want you to consider sources that don’t agree with your world view.

That would make it easy for you, wouldn’t it?

Sorry to disappoint you. Whether I agree with their politics or not is academic.
Imagine how many young people UEFA are able to influence premised on their platform - which is NOT for politicisation. They have an enormous responsibility to remain impartial - they have abused the responsibility and forever tarnished their impartiality.

I’ve shown you evidence of the genocide occurring multiple times and you refuse to acknowledge it because it’s not from a source you like.

What you mean is that you object to UEFA saying that the Israeli government should stop killing kids and civilians. Not ‘becoming political’ but expressing an opinion you dislike

Unless they’re direct from Netanyahu’s mouth you won’t believe it anyway

I dont want to derail this thread - please see this thread- happy to discuss further there:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5376204-hamas-underestimate-deaths-of-palestinians?reply=145796643