Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)

Sorry.

While both Palestinians and Israelis have suffered over the years I think it’s pretty clear that the Palestinians have suffered on a far far greater scale. Many many many more Palestinian deaths, mutilations, bereavements, loss of homes and land. I don’t know how anyone would pretend not to see this.

PS it’s been going on for years so Hamas didn’t start it.

Well, that's a lovely way to dismiss all of the suffering. (Also conveniently dismissing the terror campaign)

I believe that the Israeli government have made it crystal clear what their plans are with Palestine.

There have been thousands of innocents murdered already by Israeli forces.

To say that anyone will be "better off" after being forced to endure the loss of loved ones, especially in the horrific ways people are being murdered is not particularly pleasant.

The amount of children who have witnessed some of the most terrifying scenes imaginable are going to need extensive help and support to try to cope.

This is minimising completely what is happening.

Maybe if they had stopped firing rockets into Israel they might have a peaceful time?

No, the nonstop violence Palestinians were having to experience as well as the terrible effect the blockades were having

What are you taking about??

"The one you deem reputable, of course."

If I quote anything, others will object, say it's biased etc etc so it's all a bit pointless isn't it. People will believe what they want to believe.

"Anyway, this is a thread about the genocide of Palestinians. Do you object to it?"

Object to what?

The thread or the genocide of Palestinians ??

Well pretty much spot on...apart from it isn't a genocide because it just isnt, in any way, shape or form. It's a War, and the people in Gaza who are innocent will also be better off when Hamas is gone.

That's a ridiculous premise.

How can any of us know why the ICJ thinks what might be happening?

BTW What ICJ didn't do was to ask for hostilities to stop.

@BackandForthRoundandRound What about all of the history prior to October?

Oh yeah, when the Arabs turned down a 2-State Solution 5 times?

In 1937,1939,1947 & 1979

In addition 1948 to 1967, Israel did not control the West Bank. The Palestinians could have demanded an independent state from the Jordanians. On the contrary whilst Jordan was in control Arafat said there was no longer a claim as it was no longer part of Palestine.
Once it was back in Israeli hands it miraculously became disputed land again!😃

This is one of many reasons Jews and Israelis are cynical.

They started it.
They make us do it.
Hamas is hiding behind civilians.
You are anti semitic if you say that.
It isn't a genocide because I say so.
What about other Arab ( meaning Muslim) countries taking them in? I don't see them doing that.
It's very sad or horrific but Hamas...
And I could go on.

The one you deem reputable, of course.
Anyway, this is a thread about the genocide of Palestinians. Do you object to it?

Well the only ones who gain from a war are the weapons manufacturers, certainly not the civilians.

Claiming that a post you don't agree with falls into that category doesn't make it the case.

So are you saying that all of the evidence coming directly from Palestine is false??

What about all of the history prior to October?

Bullshit? Check this out.
Netanyahu rejected ceasefire-for-hostages deal in Gaza, sources say | Israel-Gaza war | The Guardian
Netanyahu Rejects Ceasefire Calls, Fighting Rages On In Gaza | TIME

Are you saying that, when it comes to war, one should 'follow the money' ??

Indeed I find this one more apt.
"La guerre qu’on voit danser le long des golfes clairs a des reflets d’argent… "

Yes, let's free it from Hamas !!

@Auvergne63 La première victime de la guerre est la vérité

Thank you for this thread. My heart breaks for Palestine. FREE PALESTINE!

Hamas ( this has been verified) have asked for a ceasefire . The Israeli government has refused.

This is bullshit. Hamas have turned down several ceasefire offers from Israel. for example

And they have reportedly rejected yet another offer today. link.

Well they have....this whole mess is the fault of Hamas. They can't be left in control of Gaza, Israel has no choice but to take them out, and unfortunately they have based themselves deliberately in civilian populations which makes casualties high. It's horrific.