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Auvergne63 · 08/02/2024 09:07

Israel was set up by the UN and by means of international law.
Indeed and have violated every single resolution since then.
Anyway this a thread to object about the genocide of Palestinians, I suggest you start one on supporting one.

Parkingt111 · 08/02/2024 08:54

@anotherfatyorkie I don't need the IDF's mission statement to know its indiscriminate., infact Biden himself described the ongoing attack against Gaza as 'indiscriminate bombing'

Well I think at the minimum not repeatedly bomb Israeli designated safe zones that displaced civilians who were forced to leave their homes are sheltering in. Perhaps if they didn't do that then some of my friend's family, including a young niece would still be alive

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 08:45

@Parkingt111 "I don't also agree with the way this war has been conducted against the Palestinians in a indiscriminate manner"

Unless you have the IDF's mission statement you can't say it's 'indiscriminate'.

"the unjustified deaths of thousands of children and made most of Gaza uninhabitable."

It is a tragic situation, but what would you have Israel do?

Hamas has inserted itself among citizens of Gaza to use as human shields.

What would you consider to be a 'proportionate response?

Parkingt111 · 08/02/2024 08:35

@anotherfatyorkie well I don't disagree that that atrocities of Hamas against the Israelis on October 7th were also dehumanising acts especially as they continue to hold onto hostages many of whom are vulnerable.
I don't also agree with the way this war has been conducted against the Palestinians in a indiscriminate manner which has resulted in the unjustified deaths of thousands of children and made most of Gaza uninhabitable.
It's quite possible to think of more than one thing as wrong

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 08:31

showmethegin · 08/02/2024 08:16

Yes it was. Never again means never again for ANYONE

Sadly some groups didn't get that memo.

Darfur Genocide 2003 - ongoing 98,000+ dead.
Yazidis Massacred by Islamic State 2014-19 2,100 dead.
Iraq/Turkman Genocide 2014-17 3,500 dead
Rohingya genocide 2016 - present 9,000 dead

and of course the Yemeni Civil War 2014 (ongoing) 377,000 dead, 85,000 Yemeni children dead from starvation, 4,000 dead from cholera, 4 million people displaced.
Started by the Houthis (Pals of Hamas) who displaced the legal government in 2014.

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 08:18

@Parkingt111 Blinken also said this ,

Early in his remarks, Blinken blasted Hamas, calling it “an enemy whose leaders surround themselves with hostages,” and saying it is “an enemy that has declared publicly its goal to kill as many innocent civilians as it can, simply because they’re Jews, and to wipe Israel off the map.”
“That’s why we’ve made clear that Israel is fully justified in confronting Hamas and other terrorist organizations,” Blinken insisted. “That’s why the United States has done more than any country to support Israel’s right to ensure that October 7 never happens again.”

showmethegin · 08/02/2024 08:16

Yes it was. Never again means never again for ANYONE

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 08:15

Parkingt111 · 08/02/2024 08:02

In genocide studies, dehumanization is commonly understood as a preparatory step on the path to mass killing.

Interestingly that that was what the Nazis did to the Jews.

I'm still waiting for the poster to come back to me about the Qeds post....

Parkingt111 · 08/02/2024 08:02

In genocide studies, dehumanization is commonly understood as a preparatory step on the path to mass killing.

Parkingt111 · 08/02/2024 07:58

Yesterday, Blinken gave a press conference in Israel where he once again said the civilian death toll is far too high and followed it up with extremely harsh critique that 'Israel cannot use October 7th as a license to dehumanise others'
Is this the secretary of state openly saying that the Palestinians have been dehumanised by the Israeli government?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-cannot-use-oct-7-as-a-license-to-dehumanize-others-fumes-blinken-in-tel-aviv/

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 07:19

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 07:03

More deliberate destruction

Often civilians suffer in wars, what is your point?

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 07:15

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:45

Israeli media shared new pictures of dozens of men including elderlies, claiming that they were kidnapped in Khan Yunis, Gaza.

All men appear blindfolded, handcuffed, and numbered. Several Israeli sources said that they were extrajudicially executed.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755441788440002786

So where was this shown on 'Israeli Media' ?

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 07:03

More deliberate destruction

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 07:00

No need to be sarcastic.

What "rest" do you mean ?

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:59

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:54

Quds is a Palestinian News Agency.

It is blocked by the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

Facebook (Meta) has just shut down it's page

https://www.jns.org/meta-suspends-page-of-quds-news-network/

Twitter has done the same

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-suspends-hamas-and-hezbollah-affiliated-handles/

Thanks for the information. Do you have anything to say about the rest or shall we ignore that ?

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anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:59

@BackandForthRoundandRound who is the "they" you refer to?

These news outlets have been closed by several organisations. Which one to you mean.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:55

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:54

Quds is a Palestinian News Agency.

It is blocked by the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

Facebook (Meta) has just shut down it's page

https://www.jns.org/meta-suspends-page-of-quds-news-network/

Twitter has done the same

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-suspends-hamas-and-hezbollah-affiliated-handles/

They have also closed the pages of people reporting directly from Palestine. It is quite common for that to happen

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:54

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:45

Israeli media shared new pictures of dozens of men including elderlies, claiming that they were kidnapped in Khan Yunis, Gaza.

All men appear blindfolded, handcuffed, and numbered. Several Israeli sources said that they were extrajudicially executed.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755441788440002786

Quds is a Palestinian News Agency.

It is blocked by the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

Facebook (Meta) has just shut down it's page

https://www.jns.org/meta-suspends-page-of-quds-news-network/

Twitter has done the same

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-suspends-hamas-and-hezbollah-affiliated-handles/

Quds News Network

The Quds News Network (Arabic: شبكة قدس الإخبارية) (QNN, see Quds) is a Palestinian news agency. It is associated with Hamas, and is popular among young Palestinian Internet users for showing videos of the Palestinian conflict and encouraging them to w...

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:54

Pinkdressinggownbelt · 08/02/2024 06:49

I can never look at Isntreal the same way again

Same... the sheer volume of people performing these vile actions is beyond any words. I posted a video on here earlier of Israeli forces happily gunning down horses... It's absolute madness. Children being blindfolded and lead into a bombed building (along with men blindfolded) So many other things... the babies being left alone while Israeli forces made the remaining staff (who were still alive) leave at gunpoint and the video of when someone was able to go back in is something I cannot forget. Premature babies all left alone. Evil

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:52

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:48

That is absolutely heartbreaking... so many lives. (They seem to be doing the whole suit thing a lot now ~ I wonder if it so people can't recognise any loved ones from their clothing)

Not sure. But several bodies have appeared blindfolded, handcuffed in many places

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Pinkdressinggownbelt · 08/02/2024 06:49

I can never look at Isntreal the same way again

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:48

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:45

Israeli media shared new pictures of dozens of men including elderlies, claiming that they were kidnapped in Khan Yunis, Gaza.

All men appear blindfolded, handcuffed, and numbered. Several Israeli sources said that they were extrajudicially executed.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755441788440002786

That is absolutely heartbreaking... so many lives. (They seem to be doing the whole suit thing a lot now ~ I wonder if it so people can't recognise any loved ones from their clothing)

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:46

@BackandForthRoundandRound "I have pointed out that you have not said anything when there have been blatant derailments with posters accusing people of untruths."

That's a matter of opinion.

What one person considers a 'blatant derailment' might be quite pertinent to someone else.

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